Email/phone agreement by a Hypnotherapist

paddyrg

halibut2209 wrote: »

...So the vigilant viewer might assume that that is how he does it. But that's not how it works. A double misdirection.

That said, I still love the bloke!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqX3dXeLDeI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_SMPGs874Q - at 23seconds in, the most wonderful nuts-out double-misdirection from the guy. He is good ;-)

paddyrg

Whittleme wrote: »

I know I should have questioned her far more and researched her much better than I had,

Don't berate yourself - you go vulnerable against professional sales techniques and as much care and sympathy and reassurance as it takes to close a deal. When people wanting a car step on the garage forecourt, they are vulnerable to powerful sales techniques. When you go into a supermarket, they have fresh bread and roasting chicken smells, they have aisle ends loaded with 'deals', then '2 for £2' deals (on lines usually priced at £1 so you think it's another deal!). We are all vulnerable to sales techniques, especially when we're buying something we want, and are not actively looking to know and block them!

All the very best

ashleypride

halibut2209 wrote: »

Indeed. Although he is clever in that he puts "clues" in for those who believe he does use NLP.

The Simon Pegg BMX bike is another good example, where he 'anchors' by touching Pegg's shoulder while saying "BM"w or "X" box.

halibut2209 wrote: »

That said, I still love the bloke!

I find his popularity quite interesting, I suspect if you ask people "Would you like to watch live magic?" and "Would you like to see Derren Brown live?" that the answers would not always correlate.

People forgot he is a magician, when people watched Paul Daniels, I don't think many people went out to buy "Magic Wands" or learn how to use "abracadabra" to solve their personal problems. Yet, after watching Derren people sadly believe NLP or hypnotherapy could be helpful.

halibut2209

Derren Brown is the number one on my list of people I'd love to have dinner with. I love watching magic and working out how things are done. The recent Penn and Teller series Fool Us was brilliant. My favourite part was when I worked out a trick that they didn't lol

Paddy, I;m not sure what you're saying about 23 seconds. Is it to do with him saying "Fly To" in an emphasised manner?

ashleypride

halibut2209 wrote: »

Derren Brown is the number one on my list of people I'd love to have dinner with. I love watching magic and working out how things are done. The recent Penn and Teller series Fool Us was brilliant.

P&T would be higher on my dinner list than Derren. Loved Fool Us for the same reasons as you.

halibut2209 wrote: »

My favourite part was when I worked out a trick that they didn't

Which one out of interest?

paddyrg

halibut2209 wrote: »

Paddy, I;m not sure what you're saying about 23 seconds. Is it to do with him saying "Fly To" in an emphasised manner?

McFly as a pseudo-embedded suggestion, they come up twice again in the show, once in 'reading' audience questions, and again at the end/finale (goose/moose/apple juice oh yeah). Pretending to embed it upfront is just mischief and extra misdirection.

halibut2209

Ah, it was the McFly show. Yes I remember that

Ashley, it was the two guys that dressed as Victorians and did a mind read trick, It was blindingly obvious as one of the guys was giving secret signals to the other guy as to what was picked. I was staggered that P&T didn't pick up on it, although they were clever in that they used one of them for the trick, and placed them so that the other was blocked from their sight.

Whittleme

paddyrg wrote: »

Don't berate yourself - you go vulnerable against professional sales techniques and as much care and sympathy and reassurance as it takes to close a deal. When people wanting a car step on the garage forecourt, they are vulnerable to powerful sales techniques. When you go into a supermarket, they have fresh bread and roasting chicken smells, they have aisle ends loaded with 'deals', then '2 for £2' deals (on lines usually priced at £1 so you think it's another deal!). We are all vulnerable to sales techniques, especially when we're buying something we want, and are not actively looking to know and block them!

All the very best

A huge lesson learned I can tell you paddyrg!

My mistake for thinking someone offering hope wasn't out to fleece people who were in despair.

I don't fall for the supermarket offers or the silly Nigerian emails though!

Whittleme

I'm off to the CAB tomorrow and will update everyone on how I got on.

Thank you everyone for all your help, support and advice so far!

nry_2

Hope things work out, by all accounts I'm in a similar position over something else which they say I agreed to, I refute this agreement 100%.

CAB are superb