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Child stealing food, now needs to lose weight - anyone else been in this situation?

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  • peachyprice
    peachyprice Posts: 22,346 Forumite
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    Wow, I so disagree with all of this. If my daughter ruined her furniture and her toys then she would be punished and I would remove them. They may be her things but I worked to pay for them and if she didn't respect that fact then they would be removed. Thankfully I've only had a couple of incidents with her writing her name on a windowsill with a compass and painting lipstick on my new wallpaper but she has learned not to do that again. The OPs daughter hasn't learnt her lesson and deserved to have them removed.

    I said that drawing on walls etc isn't acceptable, of course it isn't, but she deserved to have her dolls thrown away because she put lipgloss on them, seriously??? It's hardly ruining them is it. She could have been made to wash them then not been able to play with them until they were dry, a far more suitable 'punishment' than throwing them in the bin. That is a completely OTT reaction for doing something that most little girls do.

    Have you ever heard the saying 'pick your battles'?
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  • I said that drawing on walls etc isn't acceptable, of course it isn't, but she deserved to have her dolls thrown away because she put lipgloss on them, seriously??? It's hardly ruining them is it. She could have been made to wash them then not been able to play with them until they were dry, a far more suitable 'punishment' than throwing them in the bin. That is a completely OTT reaction for doing something that most little girls do.

    Have you ever heard the saying 'pick your battles'?

    The OP said she had removed the makeup that her daughter was using to draw with and that there was a doll and some ponies that were damaged and were thrown out. In the same post she said that she told her daughter to clean them, which she did. It's doubtful that the things that were thrown out would've just have had lip gloss on them as that would've washed off. You make it sound like she's thrown all her toys out but I read it as she threw out the ones that were badly damaged and couldn't be cleaned up.
    :j little fire cracker born 5th November 2012 :j
  • peachyprice
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    It's doubtful that the things that were thrown out would've just have had lip gloss on them as that would've washed off. You make it sound like she's thrown all her toys out but I read it as she threw out the ones that were badly damaged and couldn't be cleaned up.


    Really?......

    Rules are there for a reason. And yes, when her doll is covered in greasy lipgloss it went in the bin. Actions and consequences - she was told that if she put the make up on the toys they would be thrown away.
    Accept your past without regret, handle your present with confidence and face your future without fear
  • Really?......

    Fair enough, that wasn't the post I read. Still, if my DD repeatedly did that then I would give the dolls away to charity so a child who appreciated them would get them. There's only so many chances she'd get.
    :j little fire cracker born 5th November 2012 :j
  • peachyprice
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    Fair enough, that wasn't the post I read. Still, if my DD repeatedly did that then I would give the dolls away to charity so a child who appreciated them would get them. There's only so many chances she'd get.


    Or just put the make-up away until she's old enough to appreciate it ;)
    Accept your past without regret, handle your present with confidence and face your future without fear
  • My DD, aged about 8 at the time, had half a dozen Bratz dolls. Her and her friend had a fab day cutting and styling all their hair and covering them in make up. They enjoyed it no end, I had no problem with it. Her dolls, her choice. I just don't see a problem with this, so long as it's not my best make up and so long as they tidied up after themselves (which they did).


  • Another example, I have - in the past - removed all make up from my DD that she gets as presents as she plasters it all over her bedroom and toys. This Xmas someone gave her some loose powder eye shadow and someone else lipgloss, I explained to her that it was for occasional wearing in her face and she has been putting some on (and we have been having to adjust the coco the clown look delicately'ooh, it's a bit smudged, let me wipe that bit off', LOL). This morning I have gone into her bedroom and all of her new toys are covered in eyeshadow, lipgloss over the furniture and walls. It is everywhere. I have told her to clean it off, and she has, and now the make up has been removed from her again but her new toys are ruined. She draws on walls and furniture.
    put in place - either that or she does not understand them.
    This is the bit I read.
    :j little fire cracker born 5th November 2012 :j
  • Buttons, now she will have a cereal bar after school and then some fruit. She then has a sandwich, crisps (if she has been active, gym, or PE for example) and as many yogurts/fruit as she likes. She will sometimes have rice pudding or a baby bell. If we have pasta she will have that and not a sandwich.

    I think I'd be inclined to look at what she eats, as opposed to the quantity.

    At first glance, I'd be swapping some of the non filling carbohydrates to more filling and nutritious protein food items. I can understand her being hungry, it doesn't sound like she eats enough (of the right things to fill her up.) I don't think many children would find a sandwich and crisps enough for dinner, especially if they've had school dinners and been active. Have you thought about dinners such as grilled chicken breast with brocolli and cauliflower, poached eggs or even beans on toast. Similar calorie intake, but far more filling, thus reducing her overall calorie intake as she won't need to fill up on yoghurts & fruit.

    Also, I'd limit the fruit & yoghurt intake (again they're not filling and full of sugar) and avoid cereal bars, swapping them for something like flapjacks. Personally, I would also try to avoid crisps, certainly on the days when she has also had a cereal bar. Nuts would be a better choice and chopped veg (pepper, carrots) instead of fruit due to the sugar content. We have cheese cubes and grapes probably once a week.

    My hungrier child has something like a banana and flapjack after school, with milk or water to drink and a full dinner (& probably supper too!) Fish and vegetables, beans, omelettes etc would keep her more trim than a sandwich & crisps or pasta. I think pasta is very over rated. A jacket potato with tuna is more filling but a similar kind of meal.

    Trying to be helpful, hope it reads that way. :o
  • Also we do not have sugar free things such as jellies and juices as my son cannot have them, we have the sugar versions - but everything in moderation is fine and she has these as well (not very often mind, they would rather have yogurts). We do not have 'pop' either. I know what is in the foods because we have to be careful what we give my son so I read labels.


    ... and now, by your own admission, your daughter.

    Does all your food shopping revolve around one person's requirements, ie your son's? I imagine you may well have wine or beer or other items for you or your husband, so could presumably have specific items for your daughter (and not your son?)

    I buy beer that only my husband likes. Mango juice for one child. Fat free yoghurt for one person, full fat Greek for another. Babybel cheese for one child, sesame seed snacks for another. Don't you do that too? And if not, may I ask why not?
  • aggypanthus
    aggypanthus Posts: 1,579 Forumite
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    poet123 wrote: »
    You said she will eat and eat? There is a syndrome called Prader Willi which affects children in that way. I am not saying she has that , but it may be something to think about. You know her best, can she really not help it, or is it greed?
    prader willi is NOT all about overeating, so if a person has this other leanring probs will be clear by now, would also have a visible distinct appearance.
    PW kids have an insatiable appetite beyond control. they also pick at the skin around their fingers, were floppy as babies and cant vomit as they dont have this reflex..
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