Advice on rejecting men....

AdmiralX

Jinx, certainly some people lack decorum. The worse happens in rush hours.

I have seen several very bad situations in public transport including people pushed out from train on the platform. One day I was traveling with family on overground line from Wealdstone. Some of the younger pupils returning from school were in mischief and we all knew what they were up to. They let a smelly bomb on the train. The discomfort and disgust was unbelievable and he driver evacuated the entire train mid journey; people drunk on platform falling on others; aggressive behaviour etc

AdmiralX

VestanPance wrote: »

Has she tried pulling out a bible and asking "have you thought about our lord Jesus Christ recently?"

Do you actually believe this is effective?
Do you believe that such a person might have taken religious education at school?

Gavin83

ZARA wrote: »

self defence classes

Always a good idea for everyone but be careful. Under no circumstances should a woman attack a man who is harrassing her unless he attacks her first. Turning violent with a man is likely to just anger him and make him become violent if he is the type to pester women. With all due respect I think if a physical fight broke out between a man and woman the man would be better off in the majority of cases.

AdmiralX

Gavin83 wrote: »

Under no circumstances should a woman attack a man who is harrassing her unless he attacks her first.

I think this is so too. Self defence classes are only for defence as the word says.
Anyway there is limited space in a carriage or a minicab to manoevre.

Police had some advice to women in the past what they can do and not do and good to seek advice from them as well.

AdmiralX

bedpotato wrote: »

Tell your daughter to wear long loose clothing

I may give my opinion on current clothing design: Much of that is impractical, there is hardly place to keep our documents purse and money safe.

Outside pockets don't have always zips .

Handbags do not always close securely - if they are tipped the contents drop off in the gap between platform and train. One cannot find the keys inside the chaos of a huge handbag.

Some have a blackberry inside the rear open pocket and is nicked

Tote bags are used to put important documents/money and go through rush hour platforms. You may think somebody is touching female curves but he may be actually trying to find where is the pocket with cash - see this in films.

The only problem I see with tight jeans is that the rear pockets are generaly badly designed to hold safely wallets with credit cards. They usually drop when people use the public toilets - this is not funny.
Gaping open pockets cannot hold safely passport or travel tickets.

People should not hang coats with the credit cads at restaurant entrance.

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Her university will have information about this. I guess most will issue rape / attack alarms free to all who request. If not, buy one anyway.

Learn to be travel wise and not appear the victim. Sit near the driver on a bus, not at the back upstairs. On a tube, sit near the door and move carriage if someone encroaches. If your carriage thins out and you are worried, move to one with more people in it.

Learn some self defence moves because there may come a time when the only option is physical and no amount of non confrontational advice is going to help then.

londonsurrey

Nothing to do with exclusively being young and pretty. I was 38 when I was widowed, after meeting my husband at age 19, and started using public transport a lot more. I had a major problem with men being overly forward. Although I take the point about dress mode maybe being a factor, this happened even when I was fairly shapeless under multiple layers and padded with a hot water bottle in a bag against me under my huge coat!

My good friend advised me on things to change. It's to do with attitude. Apparently, I had been brought up to be sweet and helpful and friendly (yes, you may throw up now).

So I deliberately developed what an earlier poster described as a "hairy eyeball" and stopped enthusiastically answering all queries with a smile. I basically try to fake looking more alert, stand straight, with feet pointing forward and arms crossed/downwards, as opposed to looking dreamy or smiley, feet crossed at ankles (demure), eyes downwards (demure/submissive), hands behind back (submissive). Sounds silly, but IT WORKS! YAY! Lol.

Sambucus_Nigra

Has she got a strong Scottish accent?

A very loud 'take your hands off me pal, or you may not live to see tomorrow' might be in order.

But I agree, avoid the situation in the first place. Sit on the outside and if someone mangy looking tries to get past to sit next to her, stand up to let them across, and then move to another seat. Or stand. Or get off and get on a different bus/train carriage. Read the signs and act before they do.

kjmtidea

Just saw a cheap personal attack alarm on HUKD and thought of this thread.

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Peater

'Is that a gun in your pocket or are you just pleases to see me?'

In London - who knows...............?