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Is this assault?

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  • Janepig
    Janepig Posts: 16,780 Forumite
    JenJen70 wrote: »
    Why would this bother you so much? As a Housing Officer I frequently deal with parents speaking on behalf of their offspring who are usually inexperienced when it comes to dealing with officials & it doesn't bother me in the slightest. These young adults watch & learn & eventually gain the confidence to deal with me themselves

    Oh, and the other thing that springs to mind which is relevant perhaps, is that often the parents have an impression of their son being pure as the driven snow, when the total opposite is true. They say that we've done nothing to help their son when again, the opposite is true and all the stops have been pulled out to assist. When you have someone convicted of assaulting someone on a night out in town, you've seen the CCTV, and yet you'll get a parent who wasn't even there telling you that it was because their darling child was hit first, or whatever story their son has spun to them. I could go on.

    Jx
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  • Zoetoes
    Zoetoes Posts: 2,496 Forumite
    bestpud wrote: »
    As I read it, he was told not to text someone and replied hat he hadn't and they went their separate ways.

    Then the OP's son decided to have a rant on FB and it got back to the other guy, as these things do, and it all kicked off again.

    The other guy was being a prat but the OP's son inflamed the situation.

    Yes but he didn't quietly say not to text someone, it was abusive and threatening. I agree the facebook comment didn't help the situation but it wouldn't have been posted if the original threat hadn't taken place, that was my point. The lad seems to be getting more stick than the bloke just because he posted a comment, if he'd done that first then I'd say it's his own fault.
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  • bestpud
    bestpud Posts: 11,048 Forumite
    JenJen70 wrote: »
    I would suggest this kind of attitude is why we have such issues in this country.....what you are suggesting is because it was only a minor assault the perpetrator should get way scot free!

    In my book zero tolerance is the way forward & if the police aren't able to spare an officer then they should have sent a PCSO to speak to my son.

    I would suggest this was a problem that happens frequently and has done since time began.

    Before FB, your son would have scuttled off or called him a fat c*** to his face.

    If the latter, he'd have expected a fight!

    Your son needs to realise that calling someone a fat c*** on FB is the same as saying it to their face unless he has a water tight FB account!
  • Janepig wrote: »
    Oh, and the other thing that springs to mind which is relevant perhaps, is that often the parents have an impression of their son being pure as the driven snow, when the total opposite is true. They say that we've done nothing to help their son when again, the opposite is true and all the stops have been pulled out to assist. When you have someone convicted of assaulting someone on a night out in town, you've seen the CCTV, and yet you'll get a parent who wasn't even there telling you that it was because their darling child was hit first, or whatever story their son has spun to them. I could go on.

    Jx

    Well, as my son has never been in trouble with the police this isn't an issue I can relate to.

    When I arrived at the pub to pick my son up I was advised by people leaving the pub that the attack was totally unprovoked and that was when I decided the incident should be reported to the police.

    I also made sure I kept out of the way when the police arrived to speak to my son as I wanted him to deal with it himself, however the way he was treated by the officer who attended I feel, is totally different to how he would have been treated if he was older with more life experience & this is the reason why I feel inclined to become involved now.
  • bestpud
    bestpud Posts: 11,048 Forumite
    edited 18 December 2011 at 12:47AM
    Zoetoes wrote: »
    Yes but he didn't quietly say not to text someone, it was abusive and threatening. I agree the facebook comment didn't help the situation but it wouldn't have been posted if the original threat hadn't taken place, that was my point. The lad seems to be getting more stick than the bloke just because he posted a comment, if he'd done that first then I'd say it's his own fault.

    There will always be idiots like that about and your son needs to either deal with them head on (i.e. fight) or let it go.

    What he can't do is walk away and then gob off in the background.

    The guy is a thug but your son made it a two way argument when he posted on FB.

    ETA: sorry - thought I was replying to the OP!
  • Zoetoes wrote: »
    If he was 30 the should still receive a better service from the police and there would still be no excuse for the thuggish bloke to have verbally threatened him in the first place.

    If who was 30?

    There seems to have been at least two thugs involved in this ridiculous affair!
  • Zoetoes
    Zoetoes Posts: 2,496 Forumite
    Really what is a bloke of that age playing at 1) trying to start a fight at all and 2) kicking off on a young lad?

    If anything he probably looked a d!ck himself in front of other people!
    If you're going to stalk me, while you're at it can you cut the grass, feed the dog & make sure I've got bread & milk in :D
  • Oldernotwiser
    Oldernotwiser Posts: 37,425 Forumite
    edited 18 December 2011 at 12:52AM
    JenJen70 wrote: »
    This guy is one of the Phil Mitchells of this world and certainly uses his bulk and appearanceto intimidate....I have seen him in action before.

    Then it's a shame that your son was stupid enough to abuse him on Facebook!
  • Zoetoes
    Zoetoes Posts: 2,496 Forumite
    bestpud wrote: »
    There will always be idiots like that about and your son needs to either deal with them head on (i.e. fight) or let it go.

    What he can't do is walk away and then gob off in the background.

    The guy is a thug but your son made it a two way argument when he posted on FB.


    It's not my son, you're getting confused with the posts I think!
    If you're going to stalk me, while you're at it can you cut the grass, feed the dog & make sure I've got bread & milk in :D
  • Zoetoes wrote: »
    Really what is a bloke of that age playing at 1) trying to start a fight at all and 2) kicking off on a young lad?

    If anything he probably looked a d!ck himself in front of other people!

    There we go again, someone else who thinks a grown man is just a "young lad"!
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