Is this assault?

corbyboy

Perhaps technically you son was assaulted, but he needs to live in the real world here.

Yes he can pursue it and go above the officers head. But what's the use of a moral victory if it results in him having his head put through a window?

Your son needs to learn how to deal with real life situations. He can't go gobbing off on Facebook if he can't handle the consequences. He shouldn't act the big man if he can't back it up.

My advice would be for your son to keep away from that particular pub, especially if the landlady has a negative opinion of him.

And incidentally, you need to be careful how you handle things yourself. If I asked my mum to come and pick me up after a similar incident and she went in and starting asking questions, I would be absolutely humiliated.

tomjonesrules

mr-angry wrote: »

Or perhaps the officer was a bully.

"Asked my son what he expected her to do about it.
Told my son that if she went to speak to the uncle she would be making it clear my son had requested she do this.
Also told him to expect repercussions if she did go to see the uncle.
Told my son that it was his fault for writing the Facebook status.
Asked him where he worked and would he be happy for his employers to find out about this."

If these responses are true fact (which we dont know tbh) then I am sorry but this is not trivial and this person should not be wearing a uniform and by not complaining they will carry on treating others in the same way.

Those are not the words of a bully. Those are the words of a good police officer. They are not there to sugar coat things, and should not need to anyway with a 21 yo man.

It's people like you that make the job of the police so much more difficult. Each spurious complaint takes officers away from active duty. Maybe you'll think about that if someone you love gets attacked and the police are slow to respond?

Zoetoes

tomjonesrules wrote: »

Those are not the words of a bully. Those are the words of a good police officer. They are not there to sugar coat things, and should not need to anyway with a 21 yo man.

It's people like you that make the job of the police so much more difficult. Each spurious complaint takes officers away from active duty. Maybe you'll think about that if someone you love gets attacked and the police are slow to respond?

But investigating threats and assault is the job of the police surely? The police are sometimes slow to respond anyway, if at all.

There are some at the other end of the scale taking petty things seriously.

If you were threatened and assaulted you would expect the police to then have an attitude and tell you they'll go round but effectively tell the bloke what he did was ok and that they have no intention of doing anything about it?

Oldernotwiser

Lotus-eater wrote: »

No!

And the 50 year old will have bulk and experience of how to intimidate people behind him. Not to mention alot of booze probably.

Do you really think that 50 year olds drink more than 21 year olds, are fitter than men less than half their age and are stronger for being grossly overweight?

If that's the case, perhaps the army should change their recruitment policy!

Oldernotwiser

Too many people here, like the OP, think that 21 year old men are still young boys!

JenJen70

tomjonesrules wrote: »

Those are not the words of a bully. Those are the words of a good police officer. They are not there to sugar coat things, and should not need to anyway with a 21 yo man.

It's people like you that make the job of the police so much more difficult. Each spurious complaint takes officers away from active duty. Maybe you'll think about that if someone you love gets attacked and the police are slow to respond?

That's why we happily agreed to wait for the officer to call out at a convenient timeand didn't insist they came to the pub last night.....we waited almost 24 hrs to see someone.

Zoetoes

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Too many people here, like the OP, think that 21 year old men are still young boys!

If he was 30 the should still receive a better service from the police and there would still be no excuse for the thuggish bloke to have verbally threatened him in the first place.

JenJen70

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Too many people here, like the OP, think that 21 year old men are still young boys!

This guy is one of the Phil Mitchells of this world and certainly uses his bulk and appearanceto intimidate....I have seen him in action before.

tomjonesrules

Zoetoes wrote: »

But investigating threats and assault is the job of the police surely? The police are sometimes slow to respond anyway, if at all.

There are some at the other end of the scale taking petty things seriously.

If you were threatened and assaulted you would expect the police to then have an attitude and tell you they'll go round but effectively tell the bloke what he did was ok and that they have no intention of doing anything about it?

The officer took a reasoned view of the situation. They know that pursuing the situation will only exacerbate things, and sometimes doing nothing is by far the most effective thing to do. The fact is that nobody was hurt, if the matter is pursued you can bet someone will be.

I seem to miss the point where the officer said they will tell 'the bloke' that what he did was ok?

JenJen70

Poppy9 wrote: »

He's quite agressive on social networks though! I woulld expect this sort of foul mouthing off on facebook from a teenager but not a grown man.

Tell him to grow up and learn to fight his own battles. He should easily be able to out manourve an overweight man more than twice his age.

Yes he was wrong to vent his frustration in such away but he didn't name names & as the uncle is not a FB friend never thought for a minute it would cause further problems.