What Security do you use?

Jaffa.

superscaper wrote: »

No it doesn't. The router has a real IP address and then you connect to the router with a LAN that has its' own internal IP designations that have no bearing to the internet IPs. There are probably millions of computers with the same IP address (e.g. 192.168.0.2) otherwise. Anything that's connected on the LAN therefore doesn't actually have an IP other than the router's IP from the point of view of the internet. There's no "disguising".

Thats what I said :rolleyes: 192.168.1.2 is still an IP address. That's how NAT works as a firewall!

You obvs didn't get it, I wasn't on about the internet's IPs just that he might have gotten internal ip's and external ip's mixed up because a router does hide your pc from the internet.

superscaper

Jaffa. wrote: »

Thats what I said :rolleyes: 192.168.1.2 is still an IP address. That's how NAT works as a firewall!

But NAT doesn't disguise your IP address at all. Your IP address is whatever your ISP has given you. That you may have two or more computers sharing that IP address doesn't change that it's still that IP address that's seen which is yours. Your "internal IP" address doesn't give away anything unique at all so whether it's seen or not is pretty irrelevant. Otherwise by the same logic you could say that the router "disguises" your computer name or "disguises" the number of ethernet cables are connected.

Jaffa.

superscaper wrote: »

But NAT doesn't disguise your IP address at all. Your IP address is whatever your ISP has given you.

I know, NAT disguises the computers on the network because to mr hacker, your router looks like one computer and not 5, and it would just drop any packets not requested.

And I'm sat behind a router which disguises my IP address.

"My ip address" being the internal one, and it would disguise it by using the ISP's IP... And that would work, if MikeJones was on about the DCHP given address or internal IP address

superscaper

Jaffa. wrote: »

I know, NAT disguises the computers on the network because to mr hacker, your router looks like one computer and not 5, and it would just drop any packets not requested.

And I'm sat behind a router which disguises my IP address.

"My ip address" being the internal one, and it would disguise it by using the ISP's IP... And that would work, if MikeJones was on about the DCHP given address or internal IP address

Got a feeling we're looking exactly the same thing from slightly different view of definition/meaning.

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enigma52

I use Returnil (free) turn on before using internet or checking emails, and do not use firewalls antivirus or anything else and my xp machine is very fast.

mightywhites29111971

I use superantispyware, threatfire, avast, malwarebytes, PC tools firewall and advanced systemcare. Not had any problems since using these.

aliEnRIK

mightywhites29111971 wrote: »

I use superantispyware, threatfire, avast, malwarebytes, PC tools firewall and advanced systemcare. Not had any problems since using these.

I bet your systems not the fastest with running Avast AND Threatfire though
Still ~ better safe than sorry I spose

mightywhites29111971

Well had the laptop for three years now so it's not the fastest anyway. Would removing one increase it's speed without compromising security?

aliEnRIK

Ive personally found Threatfire to be a waste of space when using a half decent anti virus program
So id say your safe yes
(Personally speaking I wouldnt touch 'advanced system care' with a bargepole either)

adouglasmhor

aliEnRIK wrote: »

Ive personally found Threatfire to be a waste of space when using a half decent anti virus program
So id say your safe yes
(Personally speaking I wouldnt touch 'advanced system care' with a bargepole either)

Why no to advanced sytem care? I just installed it on my mates computer (and replaced AVG with Avira). It does seem to be running a lot better.