Ryanair ---- Now Too Much Hassle?

Mr_Wang

2sides2everystory wrote: »

Clearly you don't.

And what is this thing Ryanair in your book, exactly? What does it offer fairly and what does it take unfairly?

Does it habitually operate within the law with its price promotion? Oh sorry, I almost forgot: you don't care.

So why exactly are you here, posting on a consumerist website? We know you do not care about your fellow consumers who might be mislead by incorrect price promotions. Are you just contrary or are you an edgy corporate marketeer of some kind?

Ryanair is only misleading to those that are too thick to read the small print.

Fantastic airline run by an exceptionally efficient CEO with arguably one of the best PR machines in the industry.
Ryanair have opened the skies and contributed to the local economies of many places.
The problem is, some people are just too thick to see the benefits due to their own misconceptions and prejudice - Usually the same people that end up paying over the odds

2sides2everystory

Steve_xx you can ask the question but its not very logical for you to ask it of me now is it? You can see what I stand for and it is a consumerist standpoint - I don't mind letting MSE know in no uncertain terms if I think they have erred from the path of righteousness, especially on such a sensitive matter.

Mr Wang on the other hand is one of your "I'm all right Jack consumers", so full of himself that he advises parents with young children worried about whether they should pay for Priority Boarding that they needn't worry because Ryanair will call them forward for priority boarding anyway (ehm don't bet on that, chum!)

He says he's a regular Ryanair traveller. Clearly not regular enough to realise that such behaviour by those controlling the boarding queues for Ryanair flights is very much the exception not the rule and if it occurs it will almost certainly be at the initiative of a caring airport not a certain ruthless CEO of a low cost airline.


I flew Easyjet recently and was pleasantly surprised when families with children under 5 were called forward according to a script (the boarding gate person was not a native English speaker but the script could not have been more clear and deliberate). In my last 100 odd Ryanair flights from around 20 airports I have not heard any such Ryanair script but have frequently watched young families plead at the gate and be shown the back of the queue and then witnessed the disappointments and worries in the cabin. IIRC, when I first started flying Ryanair they did let families with children board first. That must've been my first 100 or so flights, but then he introduced Priority Boarding and gobsmacked reasonable people by sending families with children away to the back of the queue if they had not paid for priority. We didn't think he'd do that to them, but he did.

Oh yes and Mr Wang likes brand new aircraft and likes to call Ryanair's fleet 'brand new'. Ryanair's aircraft are actually worked particularly hard, and the engines of course are a separate issue when it comes to stripping them down and swapping them around for maintenance or following ash ingestion etc.

From what can be trawled on the internet, their airframes seem actually on average to be about 4 years old currently. I personally still draw some comfort from it, but I also notice the signs of wear in both the aircraft and the passengers, even those with the thickest hard-wearing surfaces.

MeanExpat

2sides wrote: "I have frequently watched young families plead at the gate and be shown the back of the queue"

Have you really? Have you ever considered letting them jump the queue? Or are you as bad as Ryan Air? And stick with their rules?

Very few people pay for priority boarding. After those have boarded, then it is up to the rest of us to be kind to families with young children.

In my humble opinion.

timz93

Food for thought:

I've just done a comparison exercise in flight prices, and discovered that flying from LGW to Venice (with BA or EasyJet), or STN to Treviso (with Ryanair), o/b Aug 6th, i/b Aug 21st, prices (with one checked bag where appropriate, plus all taxes and additional charges) are as follows:

British Airways £230.20

Ryanair £336.10

EasyJet £187.30

How about that then? I wonder what Mr O'Leary would have to say!

jayok

He would say pick a different date :rotfl:

In all seriousness, why don't you just book the Easyjet flight and be done with it?

2sides2everystory

MeanExpat wrote: »

2sides wrote: "I have frequently watched young families plead at the gate and be shown the back of the queue"

Have you really? Have you ever considered letting them jump the queue? Or are you as bad as Ryan Air? And stick with their rules?

Very few people pay for priority boarding. After those have boarded, then it is up to the rest of us to be kind to families with young children.

In my humble opinion.

Then part of your humble opinion may not be based on enough experience of the real deal, Mr MeanExpat.

If you travelled Ryanair regularly, you might be surprised how many actually pay for priority boarding on the busy flights e.g. the summer holiday flights and national holiday weekend flights. And those are the flights most likely to include a lot of children.

When I see families who could obviously do with priority boarding I ALWAYS consider whether I am in a position to help them, which on occasion means yes I have been the one to invite such a family to jump the queue. And I have two or three times offered to move seats once inside in order that a family could sit together. Not many do that of course, as most Ryanair passengers behave like frightened sheep until they are safely in a seat on board.

Nevertheless I assume you practice all the swashbuckling you preach to those who are already converted, MeanExpat?

Incidentally - where are you on the scale of contented<-->peed off with Ryanair over their introduction of their most recent hassle factors?

MeanExpat

Well done 2sides! What a decent chap or chapess! However, your innuendos are disgusting.

In my humble opinion, most people are kind to families with young children.

For your information, I used to travel with young children.

For your information, I always board in last (and get off first).

If it makes you feel better, yes, I am annoyed by the MOST RECENT hassle factors but this is not the subject here at this precise moment.

And unlike some, I have no choice but to travel with Ryan Air.

2sides2everystory

MeanExpat wrote: »

Well done 2sides! What a decent chap or chapess! However, your innuendos are disgusting.

In my humble opinion, most people are kind to families with young children.

For your information, I used to travel with young children.

For your information, I always board in last (and get off first).

If it makes you feel better, yes, I am annoyed by the MOST RECENT hassle factors but this is not the subject here at this precise moment.

And unlike some, I have no choice but to travel with Ryan Air.

What disgusting innuendos are you talking about?? ... Edit ... oh dear ... I have just learned something about that 's' word by Googling Urban dictionary definition #2 ... oops !

Why do you think you occupy all the high ground? Most of us travel with young children at some point in our lives. Many of us peed off with Ryanair have little choice with our main route due to them monopolising so many routes. And I am not sure how you guarantee yourself getting off first if you board last with Ryanair - maybe your main route is one with low load factors due to the hassle factor? (Which is what this particular thread was originally about!).

MeanExpat

2sides2everystory wrote: »

Why do you think you occupy all the high ground?

I am so sorry, it OBVIOUSLY should be YOU, oh High Master User of Ryan Air!

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Bob_the_Saver

MeanExpat wrote: »

I am so sorry, it OBVIOUSLY should be YOU, oh High Master User of Ryan Air!


High Master User of Ryan Air

Hang on you lot, High Master User of Ryan Air is MY title!!!!