Just been kicked out of the garden centre!!!

DCodd

Overlord wrote: »

But again, this is not relevant. If the staff do their job properly, such a thing is not relevant.

I agree, when including the Manager as they are staff too. However the Employer is not staff and if they are not doing their job properly the business will fail, regardless of the performance of their staff.

timeportal

Overlord wrote: »

If the staff did their jobs properly, there would be no need for any bollocking. Problem solved.

I could agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong!

You have no idea what the staff did or did not do, you have no idea how they were spoken to and you have no idea how to manage staff.

ANY disciplinary procedures, be they a sacking, a suspension or just a ticking off should always be done away from other people be they other staff or the general public. Not to do so leaves the company and possibly the individual involved open to a tribunal which could cost them dearly

Azari

DCodd wrote: »

I agree, when including the Manager as they are staff too. However the Employer is not staff and if they are not doing their job properly the business will fail, regardless of the performance of their staff.

The problem with the ridiculously childish and simplistic world view that both your self and overlord have is twofold:

Firstly, you have no way of knowing who was at fault - the staff or the management.

Secondly, it is generally accepted amongst civilised people that humiliating your staff by telling them off in public is not the way to get the best from them and as getting the best from your staff is part and parcel of being a successful manager or entrepreneur, such action marks you out as a failure, not only as a human being but also as an employer.

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DCodd

DCodd wrote: »

A Boss or Employer that is prepared to chastise an employee in public is rarely thinking about the Company's best interest when they do it (especially retail), as it has a detrimental effect, not only on the other employees but just as importantly, the potential customers that hear it.

Any Manager or Employer that does this is by definition a poor Manager or Employer.

Maybe you should read the thread before you accuse me of a view point that I do not hold.

Azari wrote: »

The problem with the ridiculously childish and simplistic world view that both your self and overlord have is twofold:

Firstly, you have no way of knowing who was at fault - the staff or the management.

Secondly, it is generally accepted amongst civilised people that humiliating your staff by telling them off in public is not the way to get the best from them and as getting the best from your staff is part and parcel of being a successful manager or entrepreneur, such action marks you out as a failure, not only as a human being but also as an employer.

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real1314

Overlord wrote: »

If the staff did their jobs properly, there would be no need for any bollocking. Problem solved.

If the owner wants decent quality staff to work there, perhaps a policy of public bo77ocking isn't the best approach?

You seem to have little concept of how motivation can be affected by an employers actions. :cool:

real1314

Overlord wrote: »

But again, this is not relevant. If the staff do their job properly, such a thing is not relevant.

Evidently (or at least purportedly) the staff didn't do their jobs prooperly. So, given that scenario, do you consider it damaging to a retail environment to carry out public bo77ockings?

I'd suggest it is damaging; hence the manager also did not do their job properly.

But you are just a WUM anyway, so I'd expect you to bleat the same line repeatedly. :cool:

real1314

Overlord wrote: »

The staff were at fault. Staff doing their job properly do not get a bollocking.

The staff should have been sacked on the spot. The employer can afford better legal representation than the scrotes who refuse to do their job correctly.

Good idea. Lose the company money in an unfair dismissal case. Great business sense there!
Do you wish you had a business to go along with your wish you had a life? :cool:

molerat

I remember a manager in the company I worked giving staff a bollocking in front of customers, he was not amused by the written warning he got

Azari

Overlord wrote: »

The staff were at fault.

ROFLMAO!

This is the problem with people like yourself.

You are so stupid you cannot even begin to see the absurdity of that statement.

If you believe that it is correct, please tell us:

a) What the staff in question did.
b) What the objection of the employer was.
c) What were the staffs responses to that objection.
d) Why the employer did not accept those responses.

Then, maybe you will emerge with some credibility rather than appearing to be a loud mouthed blow hard who jumps to whatever conclusion suits him with no knowledge or regard for the circumstances of the case.

lovinituk

Overlord wrote: »

I own a profitable business turning over around £500,000 per annum and have seen my share of poor employees.

Yeah, right!!! You're so funny - this thread should be moved to the jokes forum!! :rotfl: