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UPS UKASH UKCASH Gumtree Scam and scams in general

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  • cheekychap00
    cheekychap00 Posts: 90 Forumite
    edited 27 November 2012 at 5:32PM
    Dan i see that its [EMAIL="lisa75morgan@gmail.com"]lisa75morgan@gmail.com[/EMAIL]
    can you confirm as the last name was [EMAIL="lisa75austin@gmail.com"]lisa75austin@gmail.com[/EMAIL]
    and the phone number they used
    sorry about your loss
    cheers
    GUMTREE UKASH PARCELFORCE SCAM
    RT HON DAVID CAMERON 10 DOWNING ST
    LONDON SW1 2A
    EMAIL.NUMBER10.GOV.UK
    FAX 020 7925 0918
  • its ok dan got info from another site
    latest names on gumtree ukash scam
    lisa morgan [EMAIL="lisa75morgan@gmail.com"]lisa75morgan@gmail.com[/EMAIL] 07973425052
    lisa austin [EMAIL="lisa75austin@gmail.com"]lisa75austin@gmail.com[/EMAIL] 07973425052
    debora regan [EMAIL="deborah75regan@gmail.com"]deborah75regan@gmail.com[/EMAIL] 07973425052
    i posted these names in the hope that they come up on google
    and save at least one person from being scammed
    since i was scammed at the start of november by deborah regan the scammers have changed names twice in a month
    cheers
    GUMTREE UKASH PARCELFORCE SCAM
    RT HON DAVID CAMERON 10 DOWNING ST
    LONDON SW1 2A
    EMAIL.NUMBER10.GOV.UK
    FAX 020 7925 0918
  • Lisa Austin got me too!
    There seem to be a few of us.
    Surely we can file a claim and try and get out money back form gumtree? This is a common issue that is unresolved.
    I have read their terms and conditions and they don't seem to accept any liability unfortunately but there must be something!
    It's not right that people are continuously getting scammed!
  • Ganders
    Ganders Posts: 10 Forumite
    Thanks rimmy, can't believe I fell for something so easily. As a user of Ebay, Preloved, Gumtree etc regularly I am normally so careful but must have just become too trustworthy over time. Never again! This Ebay tie in seems suspicious too! I'll log these details with my case to see if that adds any more weight. If someone has logged all of these details with times, dates, adverts, contact details etc and it is reoccurring then they must do something about it. Even if we cannot get money back then at least seeing them stopping these people would be pleasing. Even simple 'bold' notes to say do not pay via ukash, and parcelforce or other couriers will not request payment prior to release.
  • rimmy
    rimmy Posts: 43 Forumite
    Ganders wrote: »
    Thanks rimmy, can't believe I fell for something so easily. As a user of Ebay, Preloved, Gumtree etc regularly I am normally so careful but must have just become too trustworthy over time. Never again! This Ebay tie in seems suspicious too! I'll log these details with my case to see if that adds any more weight. If someone has logged all of these details with times, dates, adverts, contact details etc and it is reoccurring then they must do something about it. Even if we cannot get money back then at least seeing them stopping these people would be pleasing. Even simple 'bold' notes to say do not pay via ukash, and parcelforce or other couriers will not request payment prior to release.

    Ganders - yes I was alarmed to read that eBay have bought and own Gumtree! And all these adverts seem to come from old eBay adverts.

    I too am careful and very cautious, it goes to show how the way the scam is constructed makes even cautious people vulnerable so don't think yourself alone.

    The purpose I am keeping this forum active is not because I expect to get my money back (I don't, and am fortunate to be able to write off the loss) but so we can keep people aware and also to log all the activity of times, posts etc so there is eventually a decent cohort of data available if the scammer(s) ever get caught.
    rimmy
  • rimmy
    rimmy Posts: 43 Forumite
    orpheuspbe wrote: »
    Lisa Austin got me too!
    There seem to be a few of us.
    Surely we can file a claim and try and get out money back form gumtree? This is a common issue that is unresolved.
    I have read their terms and conditions and they don't seem to accept any liability unfortunately but there must be something!
    It's not right that people are continuously getting scammed!

    orpheuspbe please can you find and add in the gumtree advert to your post, there is no point people posting comments alone. We need to capture the detail and the item in question.

    thanks
  • cheekychap00
    cheekychap00 Posts: 90 Forumite
    edited 28 November 2012 at 2:08PM
    this is the second time i have contacted parcelforce under the foi act
    the first e-mail went through to suspicious e-mails at parcelforce with an automatic reply but i managed today to e-mail the right department.
    the request was for the first time this scam was brought to their attention and how many customers have been affected by it
    cheers
    hi its lisa here from gumtree ukash scam [EMAIL="lisa75morgan@gmail.com"]lisa75morgan@gmail.com[/EMAIL] parcelforce 07973425052
    i have managed by repeating the above line and similar lines to get quite high on google
    to help stop others from being scammed
    it would help if posters included the fake names when posting to aid others who are suspicious and google deborah regan, lisa austin and a host of nearly 20 other names.
    cheers
    GUMTREE UKASH PARCELFORCE SCAM
    RT HON DAVID CAMERON 10 DOWNING ST
    LONDON SW1 2A
    EMAIL.NUMBER10.GOV.UK
    FAX 020 7925 0918
  • Ganders
    Ganders Posts: 10 Forumite
    edited 28 November 2012 at 3:07PM
    Interesting you saying that cheekychap... when I called parcelforce it took probably less than 30 seconds to get an answer as they seemed well aware of it: *Me "think i've been conned" *Parcelforce "have you received an email from us for through gumtree?" *Me "Yes, why?", *Parcelforce "you need to speak to the police as it's nothing to do with us!" I'll post the name again lisa75morgan@gmail.com 07973425052 Always the same number but different names/ addresses. Just type the phone number into google and see how many sites and names this person is using and how long it's been going on but nothing to stop it via gumtree... surely this person/ people have got an ip address??
  • Ganders thats why they are using google gmail
    when you open the email header and use freely available software the trail stops at google in california
    not that the scammers are in california but google do not send out ip addresses on their emailsand have to be subpoenod in court to get them
    cheers
    i agree that parcelforce know all about the scam as i phoned them to enquire when my item was arriving to be told i was scammed right away like rimmy i am building as much info as i can
    GUMTREE UKASH PARCELFORCE SCAM
    RT HON DAVID CAMERON 10 DOWNING ST
    LONDON SW1 2A
    EMAIL.NUMBER10.GOV.UK
    FAX 020 7925 0918
  • I too have just been a victim of this Lisa Morgan on Gumtree. Feeling very stupid. She claims to be able to deliver items advertised on Gumtree via Parcel Force as a benefit of her work. First she says the driver can take cash but then it turns out you need a UKASH voucher. You then get an email supposedly from Parcel Force asking you to buy a UKASH voucher and register the details of the voucher with them. That's the last you hear from them and I guess they redeem the voucher some how.

    Her email is lisa75morgan@gmail.com and mobile is 07425620661
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