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euronorris wrote: »

Oh yes, you're right. Everyone should just forget about this poor child. I mean, that child has so many people looking out for it already....oh wait, it doesn't!

I don't care what the OP wanted. I care about the needs of that child, which are JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE OP'S FAMILY, and are being completely neglected by the two people who are supposed to love and care for it. Worse, another person is aware of this, and the fact that it's mother is violent and aggressive, and she's chosen to ignore it!

If the OW was so bad that she caused a grown adult to require anti-depressants to stop him from committing suicide, imagine what effect she will have on a CHILD! AN INNOCENT CHILD!

I can't make it any clearer.

If she's that bad, at the very least, call social services and raise your concerns with them so at least someone will care about meeting the needs of the child.

You're right, oh course! Your belief in making judgement based on imperfect information is for more important and accurate than responding to a question about your own personal experiences for someone to learn from...

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Person_one wrote: »

Sometimes people all agree because they all agree, not because they are a 'gang'! I don't know anybody on this forum beyond their posts, I'm certainly not in cahoots with anybody, there's no secret conspiracy to break up as many marriages as we can.

Nobody has actually been nasty to the OP at all as far as I can see, what they are doing is presenting her with some hard to face home truths.

The OP doesn't want to face those home truths right now, she's too angry and too hurt. I understand that, I do, she's had her life completely blown apart and now she's trying to put it back together but is finding that the pieces don't fit anymore. She wants things to be how they used to be but that's impossible, she doesn't have a time machine and she can't 'un-know' what she now knows about what kind of man her husband is. She's trying to paper over the cracks while the foundations are crumbling.

What posters here are doing is giving her a bit of a reality check, she clearly isn't ready for it now but maybe it will plant a seed or give her something to think about or discuss with her counsellor. There's no ganging up, nobody has any vested interest in what happens, we all just see a very very sad situation involving two wronged children, one wronged adult and one adult who's behaved despicably towards them under any definition.

When does stop, no mean no.. when does "girls she's not listening" (not doing as shes told) turn from a comment to a clarion call...

What some posters are doing is no different than other situations, just because you can doesn't mean you should. let alone that what you're prescribing is appropriate for the "limited" information OP has given..

Person_one

MoreOn wrote: »

When does stop, no mean no.. when does "girls she's not listening" (not doing as shes told) turn from a comment to a clarion call...

What some posters are doing is no different than other situations, just because you can doesn't mean you should. let alone that what you're prescribing is appropriate for the "limited" information OP has given..

You know, I don't recall you offering the OP much in the way of constructive advice, you seem to be hovering around merely to try and police how other people are posting.

I suppose its silly of me to expect that someone who chose the username 'Moron' would be here to make a positive contribution rather than to stir the pot a bit, which is all I see you doing.

OP, best of luck, I hope you get there eventually, I'll stay out of your thread from now on though.

euronorris

MoreOn wrote: »

You're right, oh course! Your belief in making judgement based on imperfect information is for more important and accurate than responding to a question about your own personal experiences for someone to learn from...

The information has come from the OP. So if it is inaccurate, it is not down to me or any of the other posters on here.

She has stated that the mother is violent and aggressive. In fact, so much so that her husband was put on anti-depressants because of it.

Yet she and her husband, by her own admission, want nothing to do with the child. She even goes so far as to say that her daughter is more important than the other child. To her, she might well be, but in a general sense she isn't. She is no more deserving of a stable, family home than the other child is.

So, if the information that the OP has provided is correct, the very least they should do is to anonymously call social services and make them aware of this woman and the fact that she is in charge of a minor.

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euronorris wrote: »

The information has come from the OP. So if it is inaccurate, it is not down to me or any of the other posters on here.

The OP also said she wouldn't go into detail.. It is yours/others choice to knowingly focus on the inacurate and not the questions asked that is the problem...

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Person_one wrote: »

You know, I don't recall you offering the OP much in the way of constructive advice, you seem to be hovering around merely to try and police how other people are posting.

I wonder what else you missed..

Person_one wrote: »

I suppose its silly of me to expect that someone who chose the username 'Moron' would be here to make a positive contribution rather than to stir the pot a bit, which is all I see you doing.

If challenging inaccurate views is stiring the pot then that is a positive contribution...

euronorris

MoreOn wrote: »

The OP also said she wouldn't go into detail.. It is yours/others choice to knowingly focus on the inacurate and not the questions asked that is the problem...

But she did provide that detail.

I have actually provided the OP with helpful suggestions on how to resolve the issue she's currently facing. Not that you've bothered to read the thread.

Anyway, OP is unwilling to listen to some of the best advice she's received on here, so I am bowing out now too.

OP, I really do wish you all the best for you and your family's future. I hope that, in time, you are able to heal your wounds and move forward in a happier manner.

DeeDee74

alias*alibi wrote: »

You know what; you have no idea. As I said an outisider looking in. I haven't asked for advice into the whys he is or isn't on medication so why do people need to bring this up as a way of validating the OW postition in all of this. He is on medication because of her violence, the huge realisation of the mistake he made and thinking there was no alternative but to end his own life.

Still, you carry on judging from the outside.

:eek::eek::eek: what father would leave a newborn with her?? u paint her to be so horrible, weather thats true or not who knows,
but that paints a very bad picture of you and your husband who leave this child with her.

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euronorris wrote: »

But she did provide that detail.

I have actually provided the OP with helpful suggestions on how to resolve the issue she's currently facing. Not that you've bothered to read the thread.

Anyway, OP is unwilling to listen to some of the best advice she's received on here, so I am bowing out now too.

OP, I really do wish you all the best for you and your family's future. I hope that, in time, you are able to heal your wounds and move forward in a happier manner.

Yep, she did and didn't the vultures swoop...

chesky369

Reading through the OP's defensive posts, it seems like helplessly watching someone close to you who's on drink or drugs and won't listen to anyone who doesn't agree with their way of life. Sad fact is that she'll continue to give this appalling man houseroom regardless of what anyone says. I wonder what her family thinks about the situation - they must be horrified.