I'm sort of homeless. Need money NOW.

DCFC79

So you want to move but where could you go ? i guess you would want somewhere where you can use your pc but keep it safe. If theres option then have you considered compromising with your mum.

bobajob_1966

kittiej wrote: »

All this talk of BF. How do we know this? Unemployed people are allowed to study with the OU and still get benefits so what's the difference?

The difference is whether the OP is deemed to be studying full time or part time. If he is still enrolled with the university then, despite only having one module to complete, he is still on a full time course and hence ineligible for JSA. OU students are classed as part time and able to claim JSA.

jc808

Vanille wrote: »

In an ideal world I would do exactly that, but I have to employ logic here and do it under the radar. I feel I adhere to acceptable morality, so why shouldn't I do it? Besides, the law is there for a reason, but it doesn't necessarily fit all sizes. One of reasons there is a push to scrap so much bureaucracy is because although it has good intentions, it often ignores logic and allows people to fall through the cracks.

That's great stuff, Plato howsabout doing the washing up?
Heavy stuff, I know, just want to build you up to making a cup of tea tonight, and possibly getting a job next week.

suehippo

bundance wrote: »

Vanille

I'm sure you really wouldnt want to wish the guilt of a dead daughter by suicide onto your parents.

Just for info OP is actually male.

Vanille
Stop wasting your time arguing with people who just want to wind you up. Cultivate the relationship with your Dad, try to please your Mum and be a little less selfish, finish your studies and get a job and move out. Don't fiddle the benefits system as it's there for people who really need it.

System

there is ALWAYS a way out...but it won't necessarily be a way that is 'preferable'. You won't get a loan because of your student status ( UNLESS you can somehow persuade your bank manager that your degree will lead you to an instant job!).

See the CAB tomorrow, see what emergency accommodation might be available to you if your parents 'evict' you and whether a crisis loan/housing benefit is a possibility. Then you can decide whether what you have to do is to put up with the status quo for longer, or to leave and possibly live in one room in a place you don't like much.

Sometimes you just have to take a leap of faith...outside of 'logic', and deal with whatever consequences might follow.

Vanille_2

jc808 wrote: »

Not really, your posts in this thread (Information youve provided us) clearly point to these flaws, no expansion needed really.

When you say 'accomplished more than most 24 year olds' you mean going to higher education, moving out, going on holiday and getting a job - well... I think most 24 year olds have done that, to be fair. As had I... (Except moving out, I didnt properly move out until I bought my own place at 27. I didnt act like a total fukctard with my mother though...)

With regard to examples of what youve done today, I see some gym, a walk and swimming, which seem like leisure activities to me... a nice indulgence for someone up to date with all chores and with a good source of income... oh wait, not you. So pointless and self serving in your case, then.

Today im finishing the decorating of my house and prepping for the carpet fitter on Monday. Id like to go to the gym for a swim etc but that would impact on tomorrow. Not being a completely self-oriented little sanctimonious vacuum like you, I won't do that. Anyway, back to work, ciao

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

It's easy to have the energy for lots of activities when you're cadging off your parents and the state rather than supporting yourself by working.

Well getting a full-time job whilst completing full-time university work to spite you wouldn't really be a smart idea now would it?
I made a decision to sacrifice one of them. I chose to sacrifice work, as i'll be doing it for the next 40 years of my life and the degree needs to be finished ASAP. I made the smarter decision here. Does that really make me lazy?
You talk as though I plan never to work. How do you know I haven't been working up until this point as well as doing my degree? I have for most of the time actually, but i'll get no respect in your eyes because I took 2 months out of that. Oh what a piece of scum I am.

Yes I have achieved more than most 24 year olds. My CV proves that. I'm not going through all of the details, because I don't want to compromise my identity, on the odd chance that somebody will recognise me.

The activities I mentioned earlier are only a part of my days activities. Tonight will be dedicated to uni work, when I can eventually get off this discussion. The only thing I'm missing from here is a job and if I didn't have university work to do I WOULD be working, just as I always have. You have no grounds to call me lazy.

kittiej

How long is it going to take you to finish your course work?

Oldernotwiser

kittiej wrote: »

All this talk of BF. How do we know this? Unemployed people are allowed to study with the OU and still get benefits so what's the difference?

OU study is part time; the OP is still a full time student.

Vanille_2

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Just a thought - does anyone remember Student Phil?

I'm new here so I don't know who that is.

tonycottee wrote: »

Have you really just compared yourself fraudulently claiming benefits to Winston Churchill sinking the French Navy?

Purbeck wrote: »

Vanille it could be said that whilst you are challenging people on here you could be better tackling the degree and making sure you don't have to extend the time spent doing it or living at home!

Really , discussing Churchill or Stalin ( or indeed anyone who has taken bad actions for a perceived 'greater good',) whilst theoretically interesting is irrelevant... ... that is all history, what's done is done and many of us condemn people for specific actions whilst commending them for others,...however what we don't know, though you have stated it several times is that you will be a big asset to the country when you have your degree ?. You may well be, but possibly of no more value than most.

True, this effort should be going into the degree, but I'll be doing this tonight. Besides, the debate is helping to sharpen my writing and thoughts.

My historical examples may be kind of irrelevant, but the logic is still the same. The argument of right and wrong, coupled with double-standards can be derived from those historical examples.

Tony, I'm hoping that you understand metaphors, or this is pointless. Do you think that I honestly consider myself in the same league as Winston Churchill? Obviously I don't. The parallels are the same. I also used other examples. Let's go with a more relevant one. David Cameron was known to have taken drugs, no punishment has ever been given. Does that mean he's scum? Doesn't that mean he shouldn't be our leader?

The same parallels or right and wrong are there.

Scared45

Gratitude, gratitude, gratitude.

You don't have it.