Help!

Muttleythefrog

shanelm18 wrote: »

well then there you go then you cannot discriminate just because it's uncommon in the eyes of the law you have to have proof and they can investigate me all they like because as i said all of the above is the truth and that's not my fault they haven't addressed this issue in their rule books just because it's uncommon. if you see the distance we live you would understand it's physically impossible for him to send me money from the area that he live's in then work full time and live with me that would be completely ruled out. so what else could i get done for?

They will have addressed the point... I just can't find it in exact terms..lol... namely 'I receive regular monetary gifts from a friend for no purpose or known reason'. I suspect the fact the payments are regular and have no directed purpose relating to a 3rd party then they will be regarded as (regular) income. If you are unsure, declare it and be done with the matter... say you receive regular gifts from a friend.. they may ask for bank statements to confirm them. Obviously if you were to fail to declare such and it did affect the amount of benefit you have been getting then the crime would be fraud. I don't think there'll be any issue regarding your residential circumstances.

shanelm18

Muttleythefrog wrote: »

They will have addressed the point... I just can't find it in exact terms..lol... namely 'I receive regular monetary gifts from a friend for no purpose or known reason'. I suspect the fact the payments are regular and have no directed purpose relating to a 3rd party then they will be regarded as (regular) income. If you are unsure, declare it and be done with the matter... say you receive regular gifts from a friend.. they may ask for bank statements to confirm them. Obviously if you were to fail to declare such and it did affect the amount of benefit you have been getting then the crime would be fraud. I don't think there'll be any issue regarding your residential circumstances.

i don't understand how that can be classed as a regular income. it's his choice to send it as much as it is for him not to so if i just relied on him giving me money there's a masssive possibility me and my child wouldn't eat the next week that cannot be classed as a regular income when a child is in the premise's. i had a friend phone up the benefit fraud hotline and they said was it a substantial amount of money and i dunno is £200 a substantial amount of money cause that's not in my eye's people are going on like i am committing benefit fraud (if be the case) on purpose and this is not completely fair because i never went out looking for this guy!!!

Muttleythefrog

shanelm18 wrote: »

i don't understand how that can be classed as a regular income. it's his choice to send it as much as it is for him not to so if i just relied on him giving me money there's a masssive possibility me and my child wouldn't eat the next week that cannot be classed as a regular income when a child is in the premise's. i had a friend phone up the benefit fraud hotline and they said was it a substantial amount of money and i dunno is £200 a substantial amount of money cause that's not in my eye's people are going on like i am committing benefit fraud (if be the case) on purpose and this is not completely fair because i never went out looking for this guy!!!

It could be classed as regular income because it is regular money being paid to you and you're accepting that money. There's no obvious reason why it wouldn't be. Whether you're committing fraud or not is irrelevant of whether you went looking for the guy or not..lol.

I've done some quick reading and the best link I can find is.
http://www.dwp.gov.uk/publications/specialist-guides/technical-guidance/rr2-a-guide-to-housing-benefit/working-it-out/income-and-capital/

If you really do want clarity and can't find it.. then just declare it and you needn't worry. If he stops the payments and your benefits are affected by such payments then obviously you can tell them they've stopped. They may want to investigate your relationship with him - they may not believe he is a friend and this may affect benefits.

shanelm18

Muttleythefrog wrote: »

It could be classed as regular income because it is regular money being paid to you and you're accepting that money. There's no obvious reason why it wouldn't be. Whether you're committing fraud or not is irrelevant of whether you went looking for the guy or not..lol.



If you really do want clarity and can't find it.. then just declare it and you needn't worry. If he stops the payments and your benefits are affected by such payments then obviously you can tell them they've stopped. They may want to investigate your relationship with him - they may not believe he is a friend and this may affect benefits.

that's fine but him being my boyfriend doesn't change anything as he is not living with me isn't that what they would ultimately want to believe? also where am i supposed to be looking on that link you just sent me because nothing relates?

Muttleythefrog

shanelm18 wrote: »

that's fine but him being my boyfriend doesn't change anything as he is not living with me isn't that what they would ultimately want to believe? also where am i supposed to be looking on that link you just sent me because nothing relates?

I think the declaration he is your boyfriend now gives me the excuse to say I think my time is better spent elsewhere at 4am. If your circumstances are as laid out then simply tell the DWP and Local Authority as appropriate. This is an issue that you can tie up and have any worry removed provided you're honest with them.

The relevant section is Other income

Morglin

shanelm18 wrote: »

i am currently receiving benefits for me and my son and was finding it difficult to pay the bills and what not so i asked for help from a guy i met and got it ever since then he has been sending me money to my account every week and i don't know if this is wrong because from what i know it doesn't say you cannot receive gifts from anyone whilst on benefits. i couldn't rely on this as a steady income to pay for my own housing benefit as he could just stop anytime is this wrong? i do not work, i have no partner living with me nothing about my circumstances has changed what so ever from when i first filled in the income support form apart from this....can i get in trouble? im scared.

I personally wouldn't take money off of a man - but hey ho, horses for courses, I suppose lol;)

But, seriously, you will have to explain all this to the DWP, so wouldn't it make life easier if he just either bought your food shopping (or, some of it) weekly, or paid your utility bills himself?

They would be non-cash 'gifts', along the lines of Xmas and birthday gifts, and I wouldn't think they would cause any DWP problems.

Lin

Emmzi

if he isn't your partner they may assess the money as income from prostitution. Then someone is going to want to tax it. And stop your benefits.

(I have nothing against prostituiton btw. am quite liberal. but if he isn't your partner, you have sex, and he gives you money, um, well. Call it what it is.)

Oldernotwiser

shanelm18 wrote: »

because it's money that i need it's not my fault most people need to slave away for money i get for doing nothing and i know it anger's people but at the end of the day its just jealously everyone wishes they didn't have to do half the thing's they do for money and that's a fact lol

I'm certainly not jealous of your situation but it seems to me very wrong to take money from a man in this way,

Have you no self respect?

karenx

So can you explain how you wont be able to live without this money? Are you not getting income support/jsa or anything? And you will probably get your house paid for for you. You are obviously living beyond your means.

And why on earth would you accept all this money from someone you dont know?! What will you do if he turns round and demands every penny back?

What it comes down to is this is a regular amount going into your bank so it counts as an income. Also it will more than likely be the same amount at the same time of the month. It would be different if say it was different amounts at different times and it coincided with a DD coming out, so could of been a family member helping you with a bill. But this clearly isnt the case.

You keep saying the money could stop at any time, what would you do if it did??

Metranil_Vavin

Originally Posted by shanelm18
because it's money that i need it's not my fault most people need to slave away for money i get for doing nothing and i know it anger's people but at the end of the day its just jealously everyone wishes they didn't have to do half the thing's they do for money and that's a fact lol



^^^ this bit did it for me, plus the posting at 3am..dunno why, just seems dodgy.

(sorry still haven't learnt how to quote bits properly!)