Split Ticketing: Report successful routes here

vikasarora

hi guys,

any ideas on splitting from stockport to any london terminal??
bit new to this system so a little confused!
any help is much appreciated.

Livingthedream

vikasarora wrote: »

hi guys,

any ideas on splitting from stockport to any london terminal??
bit new to this system so a little confused!
any help is much appreciated.

Try splitting at Stoke on Trent and using London Midland trains, take a lot longer but save you quite a bit.

Stockport to Stoke on Trent £11 Anytime return *Virgin Trains Only
Stoke on Trent to London £22.50 Super Off Peak return *London Midland Trains Only

Total Return £33.50 Can be cheaper if going for a day and getting day returns from Stockport to Stoke or getting advance singles from Stoke to London.

Martin_Brez

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Errm try it and see - you seem to know what to do. The answer may well vary depending on date/time of day, etc.
Need to be in Wolverhampton by 12.30 on 22/01/11, this is the best I can come up with.

Nottingham to Wolverhampton £22.70 off peak return

Nottingham to Birmingham to Wolverhampton £15 + £4.40 = £19.40 off peak return

Nottingham to Derby to Birmingham to Wolverhampton £5.90 + £13.70 + £4.40 = £24 off peak return

Nottingham to Birmingham (via Coach) walk to New Street to Wolverhampton £10.30 + £4.40 = £14.70 (Not too much difference in time getting the coach from Nottingham compared to the train)

Think I have a winner combining coach and the train.

An off peak return from Nottingham to Birmingham is £15.00, then £4.40 return to Wolverhampton. I've discovered that you can get an off peak day return for £15 from Nottingham to Tipton (same price to New St), from Tipton to Wolverhampton it is £1.90 off peak day return. Therefore, £16.90, saving £5.80 compared to £22.70 which costs from Nottingham to Wolverhampton.

Only problem I can see is that you need to be on a local stopping train between Birmingham New St and Wolverhampton, which stops at Tipton. Doubt it will be vaild on any trains that only stop at Sandwell and Dudly between Birminghham and Wolves.

wealdroam

Martin_Brez wrote: »

Only problem I can see is that you need to be on a local stopping train between Birmingham New St and Wolverhampton, which stops at Tipton. Doubt it will be vaild on any trains that only stop at Sandwell and Dudly between Birminghham and Wolves.

Yes, you are right.

Generally speaking[1] if you are splitting tickets, the train you are using must stop at the station where you change tickets.



[1] there are some exceptions involving season tickets and/or zonal tickets.

Dm146

Hello Fellow travellers. First time poster, please be gentle.

Quick question, can any one tell me on some recent successful split tickets booked where you dont have to change trains, very tempted to do some traveling around the UK and just wanted to get idea of some really great deal with the least amount of difficulty.

Many thanks,
DM

Jeff_Bridges_hair

Dm146 wrote: »

Hello Fellow travellers. First time poster, please be gentle.

Quick question, can any one tell me on some recent successful split tickets booked where you dont have to change trains, very tempted to do some traveling around the UK and just wanted to get idea of some really great deal with the least amount of difficulty.

Many thanks,
DM

You dont have to change trains when split ticketing you just have to make sure that the train your wanting stops at the station your splitting at.

If your travelling around then look for rover tickets.. PTEs in the north like selling these but can also get an all line rover and so forth.

go to http://www.railforums.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=105 and outline the kind of journeys you want to be covering and they can help you out.

farci

The new direct service from Helensburgh-Edinburgh via the restored Airdrie-Bathgate link can save time for travellers along the route. But beware the fares trap!

For example the published cheap day return fare from Dumbarton-Edinburgh is £25, but you can do the same journey for only £16 by buying two day returns: Dumbarton-Glasgow Queen St (£4.60) and a separate Queen St-Edinburgh ticket (£11.40).

Why? The Dumbarton-Glasgow ticket is wholly within the area where fares are set by Strathclyde Passenger Transport and therefore at a much lower rate/mile than Scotrail standard prices. This should apply to any other journey within the SPT area

jkgray

I have never done this split ticketing before, so just to confirm you can stay sat in the same seat and just have say 2 tickets to cover the whole journey and that's ok?

I remember a few years ago it was only said to be allowable if you changed trains at the split point. Looking at the National Conditions of Carriage onlien that still seems to be the way it reads. Is there anything on the web that can be printed off to prove it is allowable?

Even if it is strictly OK how often do you get hassle from the conductor?

Thanks.

Jeff_Bridges_hair

jkgray wrote: »

I have never done this split ticketing before, so just to confirm you can stay sat in the same seat and just have say 2 tickets to cover the whole journey and that's ok?

I remember a few years ago it was only said to be allowable if you changed trains at the split point. Looking at the National Conditions of Carriage onlien that still seems to be the way it reads. Is there anything on the web that can be printed off to prove it is allowable?

Even if it is strictly OK how often do you get hassle from the conductor?

Thanks.

you can only stay in the same seat if you have booked the same seat for the second part of the journey. you have never had to change trains to split tickets. its just not many people people knew about it

jkgray

I have checked the National Conditions of Carriage
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/system/galleries/download/misc/NRCOC.pdf

and I think this is the term that allows it:

"19. Using a combination of tickets
You may use two or more tickets for one journey as long as together they cover the entire
journey and one of the following applies:
(a) they are both Zonal Tickets (unless special conditions prohibit their use);
(b) the train you are in calls at a station where you change from one
ticket to another; or
(c) one of the tickets is a Season Ticket (which for this purpose does not include
Season Tickets or travel passes issued on behalf of a passenger transport
executive or local authority) or a leisure travel pass, and the other ticket(s) is/are not.
You must comply with any restriction shown on the tickets relating to travel in the trains of
a particular Train Company or Train Companies (see Condition 10).
If you do not comply with this Condition, you will be treated as having joined the train
without a ticket and the relevant parts of Condition 2 or 4 will apply, either to the entire
journey, or from the last station where the train stopped at which at least one of the
tickets was valid." (my underlining)