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donnajunkie

skintandscared wrote: »

You really don't get it do you. My overall point about the holiday money is that we factor in our circumstances and make the appropriate financial arrangements to cover it. We plan ahead so we can afford the break, and still afford to eat when we get home.

everyone factors in their circumstances when considering a holiday.

Bogof_Babe

Contributions based JSA only lasts six months, so I agree in principle that maybe it is unfair to prevent someone taking a holiday that their partner is paying for. However in this situation I don't see why the partner shouldn't cover the lost JSA as they can obviously afford it.

However once a family or couple is on Income based JSA I'd be surprised if they could afford a holiday abroad. Now you're going to say that maybe their parents pay for it - well in that case they should declare the money it cost and have it deducted from their benefits, yes?

Also this thing about being able to get back - if you book a cheapie package for £350 that's one thing, but if you are required to return at short notice, so have to pay perhaps £300 for a seat on a scheduled flight, that then blows the cost of the trip out of the water doesn't it? In fact how many people on Income based JSA could afford to fly back mid-holiday, regardless of actual time it would take in the air.

donnajunkie

Bogof_Babe wrote: »

Contribution based JSA only lasts six months, so I agree in principle that maybe it is unfair to prevent someone taking a holiday that their partner is paying for. However in this situation I don't see why the partner shouldn't cover the lost JSA as they can obviously afford it.

However once a family or couple is on Income based JSA I'd be surprised if they could afford a holiday abroad. Now you're going to say that maybe their parents pay for it - well in that case they should declare the money it cost and have it deducted from their benefits, yes?

Also this thing about being able to get back - if you book a cheapie package for £350 that's one thing, but if you are required to return at short notice, so have to pay perhaps £300 for a seat on a scheduled flight, that then blows the cost of the trip out of the water doesn't it? In fact how many people on Income based JSA could afford to fly back mid-holiday, regardless of actual time it would take in the air.

some holidays are booked more than 6 months in advance.
declare it as income? well there is nothing on the holiday form saying if someone has paid for the holiday then you have to declare it.
the fact that it is quuestionable whether someone could afford to comeback early isnt the issue. you cant say to someone you cant do that because i dont think you can afford it. and like i said you only have to come back if the jobcentre phones you and they never do. people know this and take it into account.

Sixer

Someone close this thread or move it, for goodness sake!

Bogof_Babe

Sixer wrote: »

Someone close this thread or move it, for goodness sake!

Oh I don't know, it's keeping us entertained . Don't read it if you don't want to.

If you have applied for a job that you think might suit you, it would be foolish to be away at the very time they might want to interview you. If you haven't applied for any jobs then surely you'd be sanctioned anyway for not fulfilling the JSAg requirements.

Sixer - are you any relation to Fiver? :rotfl:

DCFC79

I could think of other threads that keep me entertained.

skintandscared_2

donnajunkie wrote: »

everyone factors in their circumstances when considering a holiday.

Well clearly you don't or you wouldn't need that £65 so badly would you ... :mad:

donnajunkie

skintandscared wrote: »

Well clearly you don't or you wouldn't need that £65 so badly would you ... :mad:

sorry the freedom to voice an opinion has been removed from this thread. so certain peoples bliss will remain.

john539

Bogof_Babe wrote: »

Problem with that is, what's to stop someone swanning off to some exotic location for a few months claiming they are "job seeking"? Few months becomes couple of years, and they are still picking up their Giro from the local branch of Bank of Bermuda.

Meanwhile DWP can't get hold of them as they are not on the phone and their mobile does not accept overseas calls.

You have to have rules or those who abuse priviledges will be first on the plane or boat rubbing their factor 30 on as they leave.

I think looby meant claim JSA for the 2 weeks holiday you are allowed.

You are allowed only 2 weeks holiday.

People have some strange ideas.

skintandscared_2

donnajunkie wrote: »

sorry the freedom to voice an opinion has been removed from this thread. so certain peoples bliss will remain.

What are you talking about?