Can an affair ever have a happy ending?

Taadaa

Why does that make me naive?

QuackQuackOops

Taadaa wrote: »

'Mistresses' :rotfl:sorry that phrase amuses me

What a derogatory term to use against an woman.

For the record, I am not anyone's mistress. He is mine

Strange that you label it a derogatory term. But thats what these woman are. They are not girlfriends or wives or even partners. They are mistresses.
And if hes the one with the spouse then you are very much mistaken....you are most definitely his mistress.

Welshwoofs

whitewing wrote: »

VP that is the bit that puzzles me. WW has just been on another thread slating a man for 'abandoning' a baby that was unplanned, and yet she can't commit to a partner for life.

Sorry but that's a ridiculous argument.

Ending a romantic relationship is in no way comparable to the responsibility of raising a child once you've chosen to bring one into the world.

VestanPance

Person_one wrote: »

Hey I'm single, leave me out of it!

Would you really want to see a return to the days of people locked into miserable existences waiting out their brief years on this Earth basically miserable? Suffering through abuse and indifference for the sake of a promise made years earlier? Children growing up with a loveless marriage their primary role model for adult relationships?

I love how all relationships used to be like that before the good old days of divorce at the drop of a hat.

I grew up knowing no divorced parents, no unhappy kids watching loveless marriages. I guess I must have imagined my entire childhood!

No I think if couple make that commitment they should work at it. I think these days many people cut and run on a whim, don't work at things and just look for a new exciting option if they get bored or what is the term 'grow apart'. It's consumerism marriage.

Taadaa

VestanPance wrote: »

You'd need to be fairly dumb not to be able to figure out simple rights and wrongs, not a complex robot (which would have to be programmed and built by those humans that can make mistakes!).

Morality is all opinion. If the Carthaginians had beaten the Romans at Carthage, then all of the Roman Empire would have been killing their first borns, because that is what the Carthaginians thought was right.

Anyone can figure out what is 'right' and 'wrong' in their world (leaving criminal justice out of this), but that doesn't make it easy to do.

Taadaa

QuackQuackOops wrote: »

Strange that you label it a derogatory term. But thats what these woman are. They are not girlfriends or wives or even partners. They are mistresses.
And if hes the one with the spouse then you are very much mistaken....you are most definitely his mistress.

I find it derogatory because I find labelling people derogatory, and you are mistaken to read anything more than that into it.

VestanPance

Taadaa wrote: »

Morality is all opinion. If the Carthaginians had beaten the Romans at Carthage, then all of the Roman Empire would have been killing their first borns, because that is what the Carthaginians thought was right.

Anyone can figure out what is 'right' and 'wrong' in their world (leaving criminal justice out of this), but that doesn't make it easy to do.

Easy isn't the issue. Lot's of things in life are hard. If you can't follow through on something because it's not easy then trouble will always be around.

whitewing

Welshwoofs wrote: »

Sorry but that's a ridiculous argument.

Ending a romantic relationship is in no way comparable to the responsibility of raising a child once you've chosen to bring one into the world.

Rubbish. I chose my husband (note 'husband' as I wanted that commitment) because I want to be with him. We had our daughter because I knew he would love to be a father, and delight in all that entails. I know having the baby shifted his love for me into an even deeper level. He was smitten with both of us. We talk often - mainly because of this thread - about doing our utmost to continue to commit to each other because that is a huge part of loving our daughter.

My DS was unplanned and loving him has been more of a conscious decision and commitment. But it is and was very different to how natural it is with our daughter.

Taadaa

Very. Narrow. Minded.

Plenty of people stop doing something because it is too hard for them. It happens all the time, every day, from not going back to the gym to not telling someone bad news. Such is life. Modern times are hard.

Taadaa

whitewing wrote: »

Rubbish. I chose my husband (note 'husband' as I wanted that commitment) because I want to be with him. We had our daughter because I knew he would love to be a father, and delight in all that entails. I know having the baby shifted his love for me into an even deeper level. He was smitten with both of us. We talk often - mainly because of this thread - about doing our utmost to continue to commit to each other because that is a huge part of loving our daughter.

My DS was unplanned and loving him has been more of a conscious decision and commitment. But it is and was very different to how natural it is with our daughter.

That is lovely for you, genuinely. You are lucky to have a man who is smitten with you and your daughter.