Can an affair ever have a happy ending?

Lotus-eater

victory wrote: »

What does fatalistic mean?

It means, if it's going to happen, then it's going to happen, there's not alot you can do about it.

gratefulforhelp_2

nickyhutch wrote: »

He's 17 and he and OH have a wonderful relationship - they're more like brothers than steps. He'd be heartbroken if OH upped and left.

That's sweet. My eldest would be the same - DH is the only father she's ever known.

Lotus-eater wrote: »

Nope, only men can be cuckolded. Women are just plain cheated on, I think.
Gonna have to look that up.
In fact some men get off on it, so if a woman wants to keep her options open during a relationship, then find someone like that.

Quoi?

Lotus-eater wrote: »

It means, if it's going to happen, then it's going to happen, there's not alot you can do about it.

Precisely.

gratefulforhelp_2

"Cuckold is derived from the Old French for the cuckoo, coucou, with the pejorative suffix -old. The earliest written use of the Middle English derivation, cokewold, occurs in 1250, written by Jesse Conklin.[2] The females of certain varieties of cuckoo lay their eggs in other bird’s nests, freeing themselves from the need to nurture the eggs to hatching. The female equivalent cuckquean first appears in English literature in 1562, adding a female suffix to the "cuck"; Wittol, which substitutes "wete" (meaning witting or knowing) for the first part of the word, first appears in 1520.
Cuckolds have sometimes been written as "wearing the horns of a cuckold" or just "wearing the horns". This refers to the fact that the man being cuckolded is the last to know of his wife's infidelity. He is wearing horns that can be seen by everybody but him. This also refers to a tradition claiming that in villages of unknown European location, the community would gather to collectively humiliate a man whose wife gives birth to a child recognizably not his own. According to this legend, a parade was held in which the hapless husband is forced to wear antlers on his head as a symbol of his wife's infidelity. Whether or not this actually happened is unknown but the phrase has survived (also see the Italian insult cornuto)." Wikipedia.

Lotus I bow to your superior knowledge.

So PTN'S lover's wife is a cuckqean.

Lotus-eater

gratefulforhelp wrote: »

Lotus I bow to your superior knowledge.

So PTN'S lover's wife is a cuckqean.

Yes but I think because it's seen as worse for the man to be cheated on by a mere woman, he is treated with more disdain than a woman cheated on and that's why we still have a name for him.
No one uses the female version, in fact I didn't know it existed.


And yes, some men get off on being a cuckold, just put "cuckolded men" into google.

Errata

Lotus-eater wrote: »

Yes but I think because it's seen as worse for the man to be cheated on by a mere woman, he is treated with more disdain than a woman cheated on and that's why we still have a name for him.
No one uses the female version, in fact I didn't know it existed.


And yes, some men get off on being a cuckold, just put "cuckolded men" into google.

Of course it's worse because of the opportunity to pass one man's offspring as that of anothers.

nickyhutch

gratefulforhelp wrote: »

That's sweet. My eldest would be the same - DH is the only father she's ever known.

DS sees and always has seen his Dad, too. They have a very close relationship, but it's more father-son (as it should be). I've always said ex was a crap husband but a great Dad.

POPPYOSCAR

nickyhutch wrote: »

DS sees and always has seen his Dad, too. They have a very close relationship, but it's more father-son (as it should be). I've always said ex was a crap husband but a great Dad.

Thats good to hear.

I have seen the damage done to children by using them as a weapon.

shellsuit

princessdreamer wrote: »

My father would have been horrified if he thought I would go without rather than ask him for help. It is not being manipulative it's being dads princess. He taught me to be strong and independent but he also taught me in families no-one goes without.

There's a difference between a need and a want.

If I was in dire need of help, I'd ask him, of course I would, but I wouldn't manipulate him to get something I want and I wouldn't ask him for something for the sake of it.

My laptop works fine, it's missing 13 keys, but I can still type with it. I'd rather he spent money on himself than treating me to a new lappy.

I'm an only child but I'm not his princess. I'm a grown woman with a family of my own and don't think taking advantage of people is a decent thing to do.

POPPYOSCAR

shellsuit wrote: »

There's a difference between a need and a want.

If I was in dire need of help, I'd ask him, of course I would, but I wouldn't manipulate him to get something I want and I wouldn't ask him for something for the sake of it.

My laptop works fine, it's missing 13 keys, but I can still type with it. I'd rather he spent money on himself than treating me to a new lappy.

I'm an only child but I'm not his princess. I'm a grown woman with a family of my own and don't think taking advantage of people is a decent thing to do.

I couldn't agree with you more.

gratefulforhelp_2

Lotus-eater wrote: »

And yes, some men get off on being a cuckold, just put "cuckolded men" into google.

I durstn't:eek: