Teachers please - Y4 expected SATS levels

M_A_R_I_E

I'm not so sure that all this talk of G&T children is actually helping the OP????????

jellyhead

thatgirlsam wrote: »

If thats not the case and the average is level 4 then I now realise quite how far ahead she is... and it some ways that really worries me

When she gets to high school she'll get taught to her own level, or at least a higher level than the class will be taught in primary. Primary here only has 2 sets, but high school has ten sets so the kids in the top set will get taught differently.

Don't worry

If maths isn't your strong point maybe you could do her high school work with her and learn along the way. My son's been trying to teach me biology without much success :rotfl:

There will be programmes at high school for the gifted pupils, and there's also aimhigher but that's a postcode lottery really - in our town you only get into it if your postcode is a council estate and I think there's something about single parent families. The teacher wasn't entirely sure of the criteria.

jellyhead

M_A_R_I_E wrote: »

I'm not so sure that all this talk of G&T children is actually helping the OP????????

Maybe not.

To sum it up, nationally a middle 3 (3b) would be the average at year 4. 3a is a bit above average.

Level 4b would be the average or expected for the end of year 6.

All schools will be different though. My son (who is currently in year ten) was in a year group where around 60% of children got level 5 in maths, science and english in their year 6 SATS and others got level 5 for maths and science, but not english. Their year 2 results were astonishing.

The year that went before them and the year that went after them got more average results. I remember us talking in the staffroom (I was a volunteer) about whether their having an extra teacher in years 1 and 2 made a difference. They were taught in classes of around 21 instead of 30, because school took a large reception intake then new legislation came in which prevented them from putting them in huge classes during years 1 and 2.

**Patty**

AimHigher isn't a program for gifted children.....it's about encouraging children who have the capability for higher education but would normally pass it by.

For example, financial constraints, destined to join the family business, parents not been to uni........

Only children that have the ability to achieve 4 C or above passes at GSCE are considered though......

jellyhead

milliebear00001 wrote: »

I have never come across a school that did IQ tests. Do you know why they do this?

Is it unusual?

My 5 year old (year 1) had an IQ test last month. From what he said it seems the whole class took the test. I am such a rubbish parent that I didn't even ask his score.

jellyhead

**Patty** wrote: »

AimHigher isn't a program for gifted children.....it's about encouraging children who have the capability for higher education but would normally pass it by.

Sorry, I didn't mean it was for the brightest kids (my son is in aimhigher but is not G+T). I didn't say it very well - I was just sort of saying that if Sam doesn't enjoy maths not to worry because there are lots of ways that high school children are stretched further and encouraged within school.

milliebear00001

jellyhead wrote: »

Is it unusual?

My 5 year old (year 1) had an IQ test last month. From what he said it seems the whole class took the test. I am such a rubbish parent that I didn't even ask his score.

Yes, it's unusual. I find it astonishing that anyone would want to do an IQ test on a five year old.

jellyhead

I am intrigued now. My son told me that the whole class took the test. The class teacher definitely called it an IQ test, not SATS or anything else. The teacher said that he was adjusting the scores according the month of birth, and hadn't realised that my giant of a child was actually the youngest in the class.

They were looking at my son's progress though, and then I had a meeting with the school nurse who has referred him to the child development centre. So it may be that he was given an IQ test as part of the teacher's assessment of whether he had special needs, and my son has confused it with some other work that the whole class was doing. My son barely knows what he is doing let alone anyone else - he is away with the fairies bless him. He said once that sometimes during lessons his brain is lying on a beach listening to music, instead of paying attention to the lesson.

milliebear00001

jellyhead wrote: »

I am intrigued now. My son told me that the whole class took the test. The class teacher definitely called it an IQ test, not SATS or anything else. The teacher said that he was adjusting the scores according the month of birth, and hadn't realised that my giant of a child was actually the youngest in the class.

They were looking at my son's progress though, and then I had a meeting with the school nurse who has referred him to the child development centre. So it may be that he was given an IQ test as part of the teacher's assessment of whether he had special needs, and my son has confused it with some other work that the whole class was doing. My son barely knows what he is doing let alone anyone else - he is away with the fairies bless him. He said once that sometimes during lessons his brain is lying on a beach listening to music, instead of paying attention to the lesson.

Strange. I think this may be something specific to your son. It would be very unusual to get 5 year olds to do any sort of formal testing, let alone an IQ test! Most schools do no formal testing until the end of KS1 tests in Year 2.

Valli

**Patty** wrote: »

AimHigher isn't a program for gifted children.....it's about encouraging children who have the capability for higher education but would normally pass it by.

For example, financial constraints, destined to join the family business, parents not been to uni........

Only children that have the ability to achieve 4 C or above passes at GSCE are considered though......

Just to say my own kids have been targeted by Aim Higher...

I think they got in because I'm (now) a single parent...

and I only work part time

(but shh! I'm a teacher and have a degree...)

so they might get in under one criterion only;)