Teachers please - Y4 expected SATS levels

thatgirlsam

FBaby wrote: »

Are you sure she said Level 8 and not Year 8? Not wanting to belittle your daughter's achievements, but I started reading your messages and your daughter's levels which seem similar to my daughter's (Y6, scored 98 twice at practice SATS and expected to reach level 6 at end of year which is as high as they will grade) and I was told she was at the level of Y8 (that is two years ahead). What just wondering if they might have been a misunderstanding.

Hi, no she definitely said she is working at around a level 8

To which i nodded and said 'oohh great'- I didn't know that was GCSE level!!

I know it must seem unbeleivable and I must seem like a dreadful show off but that is what the teacher said

We will see next year when she is assessed at senior school - Maybe the teacher she has now is way off the mark.. from what people on this thread have said it could well be the case - It obviously seems a bit unbeleivable!

Gingham_R

FBaby wrote: »

just wondering if they might have been a misunderstanding.

why? :beer:

thatgirlsam

Gingham_R wrote: »

why? :beer:

Because someone like me can't have a child that bright?

**Patty**

Aww Sam.......I've got a little bright spark too.

He's in Yr 4 as well. I've expressed my concerns at various points over the last year that the current arrangements at school are simply not enough (him and another girl are already doing Yr 6 work in maths & science) but they keep assuring me that they are on top of it. (well they would wouldn't they:o)

I have pointed out that it's fine giving him that work now but what provision is there for when he gets into Yr 6? Am still waiting for an answer.

Unfortunately, the primary he goes to has higher than the national average of SEN children and all the time & resources seem to be going in that direction. The alternative school in our catchment area is worse:eek: but he is happy and settled at the school he is in and in my opinion, that counts for a lot more than anyone's league tables. He's 8 fgs.

Although as a pushy parent:D i do feel he could benefit from the organisation described by Gingham R **shameless hint**:o as he appears to fit the emotional/sensitive/above average criteria.

FBaby

Gingham_R wrote: »

why? :beer:

because of this:

She acheived level 5 for all her subjects at the end of yr 5

and as amazing it is to be at level 8 at the end of year 6, it is even more amazing to jump from level 5 to level 8 in one year.

Also because level 6ish is the equivalent of the expected level at Y8 and finally, because thatgirlsam has stated that she doesn't really know much about levels and it would be very easy to get confused between 'levels' and 'years'.

thatgirlsam

FBaby wrote: »

because of this:


and as amazing it is to be at level 8 at the end of year 6, it is even more amazing to jump from level 5 to level 8 in one year.

Also because level 6ish is the equivalent of the expected level at Y8 and finally, because thatgirlsam has stated that she doesn't really know much about levels and it would be very easy to get confused between 'levels' and 'years'.

She acheived a level 5 at the end of year 5 - that doesn't mean she wasn't capable of working at a higher level though does it?

The teacher couldn't have given a higher level.. she got 5a .. but thats not to say if she had been assessed at a higher level she may have got it

So not really a big jump if she was already capable of acheiving a higher level

I know what is expected and I know that people don't beleive what I am saying

To be honest I think I am going to have to get used to that

milliebear00001

thatgirlsam wrote: »

She acheived a level 5 at the end of year 5 - that doesn't mean she wasn't capable of working at a higher level though does it?

The teacher couldn't have given a higher level.. she got 5a .. but thats not to say if she had been assessed at a higher level she may have got it

So not really a big jump if she was already capable of acheiving a higher level

I know what is expected and I know that people don't beleive what I am saying

To be honest I think I am going to have to get used to that

Don't worry about it Sam. It's not really relevant anyway. Your daughter is performing way above average, she's happy, the school are catering for her needs - unless something changes, there's no problem.

I would expect that she sat the standard QCA test which would only give her a level 5 tops - doesn't assess beyond that. She might have been given other 'higher' tests 'just to see', or the teacher may have made an informal judgement using some other method - we don't know so why would you question a professional judgement (albeit off the record) from somebody who levels children day in day out?

thatgirlsam

milliebear00001 wrote: »

Don't worry about it Sam. It's not really relevant anyway. Your daughter is performing way above average, she's happy, the school are catering for her needs - unless something changes, there's no problem.

I would expect that she sat the standard QCA test which would only give her a level 5 tops - doesn't assess beyond that. She might have been given other 'higher' tests 'just to see', or the teacher may have made an informal judgement using some other method - we don't know so why would you question a professional judgement (albeit off the record) from somebody who levels children day in day out?

Thanks millie..

I don't think I am going to mention it to anyone anymore

It just makes me look like I am some sort of fantasist!

But, yes obviously I am chuffed to bits about how well she is doing and hope it carries on at her next school

Spendless

This thread has been really interesting for me, not so much about where children should be at, but the sensitivity, the not getting on with peers, is all starting to fall into place. I know Gingham has told me to contact the NAGC before, but like Sam, I didn't really know what to say to them.

catpaws99

Another one with a bright spark:) DD is in Y2 at the mo and is taken out to do maths seperatly as when she was in Y1 she was put up a year into Y2 and so now works at Y3. I'm also worried like Patty that my DD's new school has no provision for her learning due to the high level of SEN. I have asked her class teacher if she will carry on getting more challenging work next year but she says she doesn't know because of funding!