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Lloyds TSB Internal Scoring & Risk Assessment?

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  • simax
    simax Posts: 1,976 Forumite
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    Dr_Cuckoo3 wrote: »
    I was wondering if CPD customers still receive credit offers (eg loans with an amount stated) via internet banking or post?

    I've never ever had any marketing sent to me, not had any phone calls, never been offered a "review" in-branch and only get offered car insurance online.

    Suits me.
    I spent 25 years in the mobile industry, from 1994 to 2019. Worked for indies as well as the big networks, in their stores also in contact centres. I also hold a degree in telecoms engineering so I like to think I know what I’m talking about 😂
  • Without actually applying for credit how do you find out what your internal risk is and if a CPD marker has been put on your account?

    Are they duty bound to tell you this under the Data Protection Act, and is it a Subject Access Request you need to send off for this with £10? Or is there a easier way?

    Quite easy to tell if you have CPD, login to Internet Banking and:

    1) Click on "Upgrade Today" under a Current Account and if it says "According to our records, you already hold the highest level of Added Value Account" you have CPD (As long as you don't have Premier that is) ;)

    Check two:

    2) Under "Apply Today" Click on "Current Account" and if it says "Sorry, we can't offer you a secondary current accounts."

    All means you have CPD, How do I know? Because I have it! Don't see that changing anytime soon either.
    David :)
    £1 of debt is too much for me!
  • simax wrote: »
    I've never ever had any marketing sent to me, not had any phone calls, never been offered a "review" in-branch and only get offered car insurance online.

    Suits me.

    One way to tell if they don't like you or have CPD if they don't offer you anything when you go in branch - Suits me to the ground also.
    David :)
    £1 of debt is too much for me!
  • Saints2011
    Saints2011 Posts: 933 Forumite
    System updates on a monthly basis. Credit Decline, Credit Bureau Data, Level of Indebtness, Strict Limit Marker, etc etc can all drop of.
    Can I find out my credit score?
    You do not have a single credit score or rating. Different organisations take different information into account when working out your credit score and may have different scores for different products. (Kindly from Experian)
  • simax
    simax Posts: 1,976 Forumite
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    Strict Limit Marker?
    I spent 25 years in the mobile industry, from 1994 to 2019. Worked for indies as well as the big networks, in their stores also in contact centres. I also hold a degree in telecoms engineering so I like to think I know what I’m talking about 😂
  • MME_2
    MME_2 Posts: 180 Forumite
    simax wrote: »
    Strict Limit Marker?
    Sometimes added by the personal lending department after a lending application is declined. It stops any further lending for a set amount of time.
  • sscott5581
    sscott5581 Posts: 663 Forumite
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    Dr_Cuckoo3 wrote: »
    Your CPD coincides with opening a new credit account (you don't say whether the new account was also with Lloyds)



    I suspect that Lloyds wish to see how this new account performs for a few months (via Experian Delphi score etc) as explained here




    My Barclays pre-approved offers disappeared shortly after new accounts appeared on my CRA file

    Thansk for your reply.

    The second account was a Lloyds account, I was able to open online. I have checked and can upgrade online to any of the added value accounts.
  • sscott5581
    sscott5581 Posts: 663 Forumite
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    Quite easy to tell if you have CPD, login to Internet Banking and:

    1) Click on "Upgrade Today" under a Current Account and if it says "According to our records, you already hold the highest level of Added Value Account" you have CPD (As long as you don't have Premier that is) ;)

    Check two:

    2) Under "Apply Today" Click on "Current Account" and if it says "Sorry, we can't offer you a secondary current accounts."

    All means you have CPD, How do I know? Because I have it! Don't see that changing anytime soon either.

    As above I am able to do both but have CPD. I just opened a new account with Lloyds but can have the option to open more when I click apply for another current account. Confusing.
  • Dr_Cuckoo3
    Dr_Cuckoo3 Posts: 1,398 Forumite
    simax wrote: »
    I've never ever had any marketing sent to me, not had any phone calls, never been offered a "review" in-branch and only get offered car insurance online.

    Suits me.
    One way to tell if they don't like you or have CPD if they don't offer you anything when you go in branch - Suits me to the ground also.

    these are offers displayed in internet banking and are an indication of the health of the account - it wouldn't suit me if the bank is unwilling to offer any credit products on the basis of my account conduct

    Neither of you have a chequebook on your account - does that suit you too ?
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  • Dr_Cuckoo3
    Dr_Cuckoo3 Posts: 1,398 Forumite
    sscott5581 wrote: »
    Thansk for your reply.

    The second account was a Lloyds account, I was able to open online. I have checked and can upgrade online to any of the added value accounts.

    I still think that the new current account is the cause of your problem , I doubt that the CRA is influenced by the new account being held at the same bank when calcuating your delphi score - it is a new credit risk product as far as they are concerned

    http://www.experian.co.uk/consumer-information/delphi-for-customer-management.html

    It is also the case that some banks lower your behaviour score when additional facilities are granted ,eg Nationwide will lower your behaviour score when a chequebook etc is granted on a Flexaccount and you would need to wait for the behaviour score to reach the pass score again before obtaining an overdraft (this was the case a few years ago - it may have changed now)
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