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pigpen

Izzy. wrote: »

I give up. You pay tax on fuel and shopping like the rest of us (but you are using benefits to pay that tax) so that qualifies you not to pay for your kids like others do. You don't pay tax on your wages like the majority do. As for savings, let's not go there. I think what you are doing is wrong and you are wrong to have so many children that you cant support. That's my opinon and I'm entitled to it.

So you wouldn't claim anything if you were made redundant or became unable to work then?

It isn't like the children arrived the day KH left we had them before.. surprisingly.. I doubt many people can forsee the future to know where they will end up in 5 or 10 or 20 years time.

I think your opinion is wrong and lacks information, experience or compassion for many many hundreds of people.. so we shall have to agree to differ.. esp as I now have to leave for the weekend.

Izzy.

pigpen wrote: »

It isn't like the children arrived the day KH left we had them before.. surprisingly.. so we shall have to agree to differ.. esp as I now have to leave for the weekend.

Two of your children were conceived after your husband left were they not? Enjoy your weekend away.

jetta_wales

Izzy. wrote: »

Two of your children were conceived after your husband left were they not? Enjoy your weekend away.

If that is correct then it's a whole different kettle of fish all together isn't it.

onlyroz

If you are living entirely off benefits, are still popping out he sprogs, and have enough money to pay for large home improvements then there is something very wrong in the world.

patchwork_cat

jetta_wales wrote: »

If that is correct then it's a whole different kettle of fish all together isn't it.

It is correct. She has a baby by a new partner and is expecting number 10, now

princesstippytoes

lostinrates wrote: »

I dislike the personal tone this takes.

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I'm afraid that it HAS to get personal when one of the posters who thinks it is personal choice how many children the OP has, has her argument coloured by the fact that she has 10, although neither she nor her partner work. THAT is why I brought up the subject of her income because I believe that people should, within reason have the family they choose, providing they can afford it without state help. Pigpen posted her income several times on other boards so it is common knowledge and from her posts she believes that it is her entitlement. She posts prolifically on the boards and her posts are there for public viewing from her financial status to the terrible difficulties she has with her pregnancy. So, yes, by refering to her posts my posts are personal to her but they are not personal in a nasty sense. I have not called anyone perverted and twisted.

Person_one

Pigpen, I don't have any kids so I'll chip in my taxes for two of yours.

After all, whatever my opinions may be on if you should have had them in the first place or not, they're here and very real now and they deserve the same chance in life as anybody else's.

vroombroom

*sigh*:( makes me sad

lostinrates

princesstippytoes wrote: »

thinks it is personal choice how many children the OP has,

It is personal choice. (you and I might think that's wrong but currently that's how it is)

We might not agree with the system for ideological reasons (fiscal or environmental or both or other), but that's how it is right now. She, or anyone else, has the right to claim for her choices, and to disagree with us. The latter I'll defend as strongly as my own belief that couldn't be more different to someone with contrary views.

And it absolutely is possible to argue the bigger picture with out making it personal.

ceridwen

princesstippytoes wrote: »

I don't think I'm being perverted OR twisted, just joining in the debate. And I won't be posting an SOA for you. Yours is on this forum for everyone to read but I'm sorry you are cross that I posted about it.

ps won't your child benefit and tax credits increase with baby number 10?

Well - as a point of information - each child that is in State education costs at least £4,000 pa to the State (ie all of us). Also - our taxes are to cover all sorts of things - not just child benefit/etc. They also cover: the NHS, defence (:cool:), road maintenance, etc, etc. So - actually people have to pay a LOT more in tax than they get back again in benefit to be "paying their way".