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pigpen

Izzy. wrote: »

Yes you laugh at the rest of us who pay for you and your children. Hilarious.

Do you?

Do you have proof it is the exact money you pay in tax that I or anyone other one person gets?

How do you know your tax isn't funding someones drug habit? Or funding the hospitals cleaners or funding the police or fire dept. that saved the life of a family member? Or the money which gave a small child a transplant and the chance of a life? Or provided care for an elderly person to live safey and in comfort for their remaining days? Or it could be the money keeping a murderer in prison or paying for bombs to be dropped on innocent people in other countries. Or the best one I have found yet.. a confirmed alcoholic receives an additional £55 a WEEK to buy alcohol.. seriously.. paying that is ok?

Tax is spent on hundreds of things.. so yes I laugh at the general level of stupidity in thinking tax is soley for benefits.

CheeseCat

I don't think any of those things listed by Pigpen are necessarily right things to spend tax on - but that doesnt make tax being spent on bringing up 10 kids *more* right - it just lists even more reasons that the system fails.

No, it might not exactly be my tax or anyone elses on this thread that goes directly into your pocket (who knows?) but its obviously *someones* so thats how people are looking at it. Again, just because its coming out of an unidentified workers pocket who we can't name it doesnt really change anything and doesn't really prove your argument.

Izzy.

pigpen wrote: »

Do you?

Do you have proof it is the exact money you pay in tax that I or anyone other one person gets?

How do you know your tax isn't funding someones drug habit? Or funding the hospitals cleaners or funding the police or fire dept. that saved the life of a family member? Or the money which gave a small child a transplant and the chance of a life? Or provided care for an elderly person to live safey and in comfort for their remaining days? Or it could be the money keeping a murderer in prison or paying for bombs to be dropped on innocent people in other countries. Or the best one I have found yet.. a confirmed alcoholic receives an additional £55 a WEEK to buy alcohol.. seriously.. paying that is ok?

Tax is spent on hundreds of things.. so yes I laugh at the general level of stupidity in thinking tax is soley for benefits.

Of course I don't. I put money into the pot like other taxpayers. You don't. Some taxpayer somewhere is paying for you and your 10 children all I know from the information you've given that it isn't you.

pigpen

So I don't pay tax on fuel or shopping or savings or anything else? Cool

Oh.. and some benefits ARE taxed.. so yes I do

patchwork_cat

oldtractor wrote: »

Thanks:j

I bet there are plenty of people nearby who have no parents and would give their eye teeth for a grandparent. I know I would have when mine were little ( my parents were both dead by the time I was 28 and never even met my DD). Maybe there is a scheme or similar.

CheeseCat

Not if you pay for everything with benefits no...

Fizzpop

princesstippytoes wrote: »

But he has to pay. By law. And the children have regular contact with him so it's not like he's done a runner. I don't understand.

He may have to pay by law but actually getting the money out of a NRP can be extremely difficult, and can take time by which time the NRP will have cottoned on to the fact csa will be removing money from their bank account and intentionally looses their job so they then only have to pay £5 per week while sitting on their derriair doing nowt and receiving back said taxes they paid in the first place

This is the case with my ex anyway

jetta_wales

I have no problem with people being able to claim if their partner and main bread winner leaves/the break up, etc. BUT if you are getting enough to pay off loads of debts too then you are getting too much and if you were humble and grateful for it not cocky and arrogant about it then maybe it would get people's backs up less.

There should be a cap on benefits for families not an incremental rise for every extra child.

Izzy.

pigpen wrote: »

So I don't pay tax on fuel or shopping or savings or anything else? Cool

Oh.. and some benefits ARE taxed.. so yes I do

I give up. You pay tax on fuel and shopping like the rest of us (but you are using benefits to pay that tax) so that qualifies you not to pay for your kids like others do. You don't pay tax on your wages like the majority do. As for savings, let's not go there. I think what you are doing is wrong and you are wrong to have so many children that you cant support. That's my opinon and I'm entitled to it.

lostinrates

patchwork_cat wrote: »

I bet there are plenty of people nearby who have no parents and would give their eye teeth for a grandparent. I know I would have when mine were little ( my parents were both dead by the time I was 28 and never even met my DD). Maybe there is a scheme or similar.

agreed, and its worth noting that older friends can become formative in your life....they have in mine, my sister's and my nieces'. Its a wonderful relationship to have....its wthout the obligation and the baggage parents sometimes have about their own parents too.