Neighbors keep my Signed for parcel

Yorkie1

Theft, as previously stated:

The dishonest appropriation of property belonging to another with intention permanently to deprive that other of it.

1. Dishonest - whether dishonest by standards of reasonable people. Reasonable people would consider it dishonest to deliberately retain someone else's goods which had been left for safekeeping with you.

2. Appropriation - any assumption of the rights of an owner, including the situation where you come by the property innocently and subsequently assuming the right to keep it or deal with it as if you were the owner. The goods came into the neighbour's hands in an innocent manner but then, by deciding to keep them, they acted as owner.

3. Property - doesn't need further interpretation.

4. Belonging to another - anyone having possession or control of the property, or having in it any proprietory right or interest. Clearly the OP has a proprietory right or interest in the goods, having paid for them and having them delivered to his address.

5. Permanent deprivation - includes treating the property as his own to dispose of, regardless of the other's rights. The neighbour's behaviour as described, by giving it to another member of his family, clearly fits this.


I think your local bobby doesn't know the finer points of his Theft Act.

visidigi

custardy wrote: »

and when have you had to present the SD slip to PP
where on the online site does it show that information?

I had to provide it when I had to defend a claim, which I won - this was after a defense of a claim on recorded delivery was declined...

It's my personal experience of what they have told me during the claims I've been unfortunatel enough to be involved in

Flyboy152

visidigi wrote: »

indeed, if I was the OP - I would only be calling the supplier, I wouldn't even think of speaking to Parcelforce - speak to the supplier, let them know its missing and point out that its unlikely to be returned any time soon.

I would ask the supplier to request parcel force to return to sender the first package which is with the neighbours (therefore making it Parcelforce's problem to resolve the situation they created) and ask the supplier to re-dispatch another copy of the order (they are likely to refuse at first, but point out to them the situation between supplier and contractor is of no interest to you and you are only interested in the goods which they have contractually agreed to supply based on the dispatch thats already in progress).

There is absolutely no reason for the OP to engage with the carrier. The only party they need to discuss this with is the supplier. The goods have not been received by the buyer and therefore are still the responsibility of the supplier.

WhiteHorse

mgenta wrote: »

I called the police and found out they are legally allowed to keep it as parcel force "gave" it to them

Pack of lies. It's theft, pure and simple.

Make a formal complaint against the Police. Lazy police officers often lie to the public like this.

bigpound

I would suggest making copies of your paperwork and visiting the police station to make your case.

summerstreetallotments

...I'd consider going to the media about this...local papers or the Guardian/takeabreak....something like that...

Ladybirds

If the goods were NOT signed for at the address where parcel force were instructed to leave the parcel, then parcel force are lible. I run a business and have had a similar problem when we sent out goods to our customer. As the long distance seller (regardless where in the world you as the seller are located) you are obliged to either replace the goods or give a full refund if the customer hasn't recieved the goods and as long as the buyer has reported it within the terms of the T&Cs (normally its 14 days without weekends) It is upto the seller to take this up with parcel force. Until those goods are officially signed for at the address they were meant to be then the goods are still legally the sellers property.

Ladybirds

Also you should contact your local trading standards office and put a full report with any evidence to prove that parcel force did not delvier to the correct address.

pendulum

How would they feel if you kept their parcel?
It makes me angry reading about this. Well done for keeping your temper, I know I wouldn't have kept mine. I'd probably still be in a cell now if this had happened to me.

fluffnutter

mgenta wrote: »

Well just an update,I rung and emailed a million people today and ended up at the CAB as it's not a criminal offence (acording to the plod) and parcelforce has fulfilled contract,I can go for "neighbors dispute,aparently.CAB are sending me a list of solicitors,so I'm feeling not quite as frustrated as I did yesterday

This is rubbish advice. Reject the items under DSR, get a full refund and let the company, Parcel Force and your vile neighbours have their own bunfight. Why on earth should you have to be contacting solicitors, fgs, to get this sorted out??!