Left lane for left and straight on, right for right?

DirectDebacle

Inactive wrote: »

Wrong, the same rules apply as in the picture at 185 here;

The vehicle in green is going ahead, so should approach in the left lane, unless road/traffic marking advise otherwise.

If you are going to slavishly follow the H.C. then you need to read at least some of the words and not rely on just gazing at the pictures.

Rule 185 makes no mention of positioning or signalling.

Rule 186 does. Perhaps the picture is only a representation of a roundabout to give an idea of what is meant in Rule 185 and Rule 186.

Rule 186 makes no mention of vehicles 'going ahead' but does give advice on which lane to choose. That advice is different to yours for some reason.

Inactive

The picture is clear enough and the roundabouts are basically the same layout.

The " appropriate " lane in this situation for going ahead is the left one on approach, unless road/traffic markings dictate otherwise.

No wonder the AA has such a poor reputation if that is what they teach...;)

almillar

Direct Debacle, I appreciate your comment about progressive driving, and I'm as 'progressive' as they come (I'd happily overtake a lorry round a large roundabout WITHOUT inconveniencing anyone, but would never teach others to), but it is WRONG to pull up beside the lorry and expect to out-accelerate it.
Using the WRONG lane is not progressive. There is nothing in the highway code that says it's OK to turn left approaching in the right lane, and there's nothing in the map shown to suggest there is a special case here.

DirectDebacle

Inactive wrote: »

The picture is clear enough and the roundabouts are basically the same layout.

The " appropriate " lane in this situation for going ahead is the left one on approach, unless road/traffic markings dictate otherwise.

No wonder the AA has such a poor reputation if that is what they teach...;)

Only according to you. As you state the roundabouts are basically the same so why doesn't the H.C. say the same as you.

By implication you are saying drivers shouldn't use the other lane if taking an intermediate exit. What are your reasons for this and what are your reasons for always using the left lane, other than you cannot understand the H.C.

Only an inexperienced or incompetent driver would agree with you.

DirectDebacle

almillar wrote: »

Direct Debacle, I appreciate your comment about progressive driving, and I'm as 'progressive' as they come (I'd happily overtake a lorry round a large roundabout WITHOUT inconveniencing anyone, but would never teach others to), but it is WRONG to pull up beside the lorry and expect to out-accelerate it.
Using the WRONG lane is not progressive. There is nothing in the highway code that says it's OK to turn left approaching in the right lane, and there's nothing in the map shown to suggest there is a special case here.

Generally speaking one would not anticipate that an HGV will out accelerate a car, particularly from a standing start.

I have not stated I would use the wrong lane. On unmarked roundabouts there are no lanes so the most appropriate position is adopted.

I appreciate your input but feel that discussing advanced driving is inappropriate for this thread. I would be interested to discuss the subject matter with you under different circumstances. A healthy debate and exchange of ideas is always worthwhile.

cyclonebri1

I still stand buy what I posted earlier.

I'd like to post a google earth link to the link road from M1 Junc 29 into Chesterfield. (but I'm not that smart)

The roundabout in Chesterfield is known as Horns Bridge.

When entering the roundabout from the motorway the road to the town centre is given as left hand or middle in the 3 lane scenario.

This is fully 245 to 300 degrees around the roundabout. You just have to observe this junction to see the folly in that.:mad:

Road_Hog

Flyboy152 wrote: »

How did you think that was a UK roundabout and what relevance does it have to this thread?

I didn't think it was a UK roundabout, but I wasn't going to spend hours of my life looking for a UK one. What I wanted was to show a fairly standard looking roundabout that had a left turn at 90 degrees, a straight on at 180 degrees and a right turn at 270 degrees, which that picture shows perfectly.

The original picture uses an an unusual configuration and is not a standard layout.

Inactive

DirectDebacle wrote: »

By implication you are saying drivers shouldn't use the other lane if taking an intermediate exit. What are your reasons for this and what are your reasons for always using the left lane, other than you cannot understand the H.C.

Only an inexperienced or incompetent driver would agree with you.

Not true, Cajef agrees with me, he was a an ADI, giving driver training at varying levels, do what you suggested on a driving test and it would result in a fail.

The Highway Code is quite clear, look at the picture.

I fear that you have been on some so called driver training programme from the AA of all people and have either been badly instructed or misunderstood what you were told.

I told you before, stick with what you know, that is wooden worktops.

Inactive

Road_Hog wrote: »

I didn't think it was a UK roundabout, but I wasn't going to spend hours of my life looking for a UK one. What I wanted was to show a fairly standard looking roundabout that had a left turn at 90 degrees, a straigh on at 180 degrees and a right turn at 270 degrees, which that picture shows perfectly.

The original picture uses an an unusual configuration and is not a standard layout.

There is a perfect example in the Highway Code, I have linked to it earlier in the thread.

Road_Hog

Inactive wrote: »

It isn't an " abnormal " roundabout, it is a fairly standard one.

The exit in question as at more or less 12 O'Clock to the approach, the left hand lane should be used, unless indicated otherwise by road signs/markings.

Piffle, that is virtually a 90 degree turn, it is the first turning and it is to the left. There is no straight ahead turn off.