Left lane for left and straight on, right for right?

jase1

TBH that roundabout is badly designed.

Really the correct lane should be signposted. I can see why people use the right lane to turn left, since the left turn has two lanes. It looks to me as if the second exit was added later. If that second exit didn't exist you'd be able to get away with using the right lane to turn left, and use the left lane for left-turn only.

But as it stands, I agree with Flyboy that the second exit should be right-lane only (along with any other right-hand exit) and the left lane should be left-turn only.

The "driver making good progress" turning left should be using the right lane and going round the roundabout

Wig

dannymccann wrote: »

Way I was taught for a 2 lane roundabout was if you wanted to make a turning 00:01 : 11:59 stick to the left hand lane, if you want to make a turning 12:00 - 00:00 take the right hand lane - obviously taking into account road markings/signing at each particular location...so I would agree with Inactive

alexlyne wrote: »

dannymccann, i really don't get your explanation. 12:00-6:00 and 6-12:00 perhaps...or were you literally talking about the time of day??!!

LandyAndy wrote: »

And I was taught, up to and including 12.00 = left, after 12.00 = right.

And for the poster who didn't understand that it refers to the position of your exit on the roundabout diagram on the sign as you approach.

What alex had noticed was that danny had said from 00:01 to 11:59 and from 12:00 - 00:00

Which is funny because 12:00 is the same place on the clock as 00:00, hence why alex used 12:00 till 6:00. I don't think Danny had in mind a 24 hour clock

Wig

Flyboy152 wrote: »

Green is also wrong, they should be in the right hand lane, to take the second exit.

No, green is correct according to HC, green can go in either lane because green knows that anyone in red must be turning right or going straight. If red also goes straight they will have to adjust speed accordingly whoever gets there first. But red would have to watch out for a stupid green going right round.
186

Signals and position.
When taking the first exit to the left, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise

• signal left and approach in the left-hand lane
• keep to the left on the roundabout and continue signalling left to leave

When taking an exit to the right or going full circle, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise

• signal right and approach in the right-hand lane
• keep to the right on the roundabout until you need to change lanes to exit the roundabout
• signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want

When taking any intermediate exit, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise

• select the appropriate lane on approach to the roundabout
• you should not normally need to signal on approach
• stay in this lane until you need to alter course to exit the roundabout
• signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want

When there are more than three lanes at the entrance to a roundabout, use the most appropriate lane on approach and through it.

Wig

Road_Hog wrote: »

Here below is a picture of a standard roundabout configuration, this should have been used as an example for the discussion on whether you can use the righthand lane for going straight on.

For USA maybe, but not for here.

cyclonebri1

Inactive wrote: »

It is, it is effectively at 12.O'clock from the entry point, it makes no difference whatsoever that it is not a main road.

The red line is wrong, they should join the roundabout in their left hand lane, ( unless road markings dictate otherwise ).

The only drivers that should use the red marked lane on approach to the roundabout are those going off to the right, or those making an effective "U " turn and going back up the same road from which they joined.;)

Yes it dam well is,

cyclonebri1

Sorry have come into this post late and can't reply directly to notifications due to yet again a dead pc, BUT,

If any driver tries to apply the standard lessons learnt to every single application, they will come a cropper.

The original example is simple, really doesn't need explanation, BUT IN CAPITALS again, do you, the average motorist, expect eveyone to get it right??, you really shouldn't, drive defensively unless you have an ejector seat;),

Flyboy152

Wig wrote: »

No, green is correct according to HC, green can go in either lane because green knows that anyone in red must be turning right or going straight. If red also goes straight they will have to adjust speed accordingly whoever gets there first. But red would have to watch out for a stupid green going right round.
186

Signals and position.
When taking the first exit to the left, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise

• signal left and approach in the left-hand lane
• keep to the left on the roundabout and continue signalling left to leave

When taking an exit to the right or going full circle, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise

• signal right and approach in the right-hand lane
• keep to the right on the roundabout until you need to change lanes to exit the roundabout
• signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want

When taking any intermediate exit, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise

• select the appropriate lane on approach to the roundabout
• you should not normally need to signal on approach
• stay in this lane until you need to alter course to exit the roundabout
• signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want

When there are more than three lanes at the entrance to a roundabout, use the most appropriate lane on approach and through it.

It says nothing about being on the left or right.

Flyboy152

Road_Hog wrote: »

Here below is a picture of a standard roundabout configuration, this should have been used as an example for the discussion on whether you can use the righthand lane for going straight on.

How did you think that was a UK roundabout and what relevance does it have to this thread?

nokinidea

I got caught out by a van deciding he wasn't going left having pulled up in the left hand lane of the slip road off of the motorway in a similar situation to the OP.
In my case the only other exit was either back onto the motorway or right.
So why the **** was he in the left hand lane if not turning left... Boils my **** that does.
Especially when I had already enlisted the use of the turbocharger to take the second lane of the first exit, in anticipation of leaving said white van man in my catalytic converter fumes.

Junction for reference
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=51.889812,-2.150697&spn=0.003072,0.007355&t=h&z=18

Inactive

Flyboy152 wrote: »

Green is also wrong, they should be in the right hand lane, to take the second exit.

Wrong, the same rules apply as in the picture at 185 here;

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070338


The vehicle in green is going ahead, so should approach in the left lane, unless road/traffic marking advise otherwise.