Agency taking the !!!!?? Regarding property visit

DVardysShadow

Gasha wrote: »

Sonic
I odn't have the time or inclination to 'fully read' your very long posts although I have scan read some and it appears you have come here for a rant and that's fine.
I shall choose not to get into a dispute with you without having all the facts (see above) but please take a chill pill, life is so short and you really mustn't be so pedantic over issues that are easily resolved by the looks of it.
I always wonder how BAD people must have been or how SAD they are when their attitude is so aggressive right from the very off.
Not everybody is out to get you you know!!
What I suggested was that you work WITH the LA but it appears that you don't wish to by deciding WHICH rooms they look in and which they don't get access to.
An agent has a duty to check all rooms, regardless of what sex toys are lain across your bed. Remember these 'sex toys' may be 'cannabis plants' so I would definitely be 'demanding' entry.
If you didn't permit this after gentle negotiations I would then serve a Section 8 Notice, Using Ground 12 which reads:-
Ground 12
Any obligation of the tenancy (other than one related to the payment of rent) has been broken or not performed.

Now I may not get a possession order straight away but I would be suggesting that the Judge gives me a suspended one just in case you decided to continue with your games.

More petrol, please, otherwise you will never extinguish the flames.

tbs624

James_N wrote: »

I did have tenants who carelessly (definitely) left sex toys for us to find when we had to attend the house to drain radiators and "fix" the boiler. They were both too hopeless to take the detailed instructions on how to bleed a radiator over the phone, so we went to do it. They'd left a big box of sex toys and little outfits in the same cupboard as the boiler. Let's say she was "slightly" embarrassed and the subsequent offer of coffee politely declined. We had a good laugh on the way home. I can still see the look on her face.

They may well have been the ones having a good laugh, having deliberately placed them there in time for your visit.;)

tbs624

Gasha wrote: »

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If you didn't permit this after gentle negotiations I would then serve a Section 8 Notice, Using Ground 12 which reads:-
Ground 12
Any obligation of the tenancy (other than one related to the payment of rent) has been broken or not performed.

Now I may not get a possession order straight away but I would be suggesting that the Judge gives me a suspended one just in case you decided to continue with your games.

You may not get a possession order at all, given that S8, G12 is a *discretionary* ground.

There is of course an implied covenant that a LL should be allowed to inspect a property so that he can comply with his S11 repairing obligations and most Ts and LLs are able to come to a mutually convenient arrangement for this.

For many Ts it becomes an issue when the LL cannot get on and sort out those repairs issues which have already been notified and then send over zealous routine inspection letters suggesting that they have free access to the property, via their copy keys. They don't.

LAs should be able to stick to an appointment gap of 1 hour btw.

tbs624

Gasha wrote: »

Haven't been on here since 2008 and just scouring the forum came across this post.
Got to say I haven't :laugh: so much at a tenant for a little while now.
Soniclord stop being an a**ehole and try and work with the LL / LA to resolve your issues.

I am a Letting Agent myself and manage many many properties. I so wish you were in one of mine as I'd wipe the floor with you and have you out of there before you could BLINK!!!!

Ooh, the power of being an LA eh?The tone of your post is a good example of the lack of professionalism in the unregulated world of letting agencies.

Gasha wrote: »

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There are many ways to end a contract and many ways to regain possession of a property. For now I will keep these under my hat as there are lots of LA's that really don't know what they are doing and for me these are my 'tools of the trade'.

from your posts I would say that you don't have much of a clue yourself.

Gasha wrote: »

You are correct, most of the properties are NOT mine, some are though but please let me enlighten you as to WHO I act on behalf of TENANTS & LANDLORDS, NOT just Landlords.
My job is to act as the middle man.

Nope mate, it isn't . An LA acts solely for the LL, in the LL's interest. That's what being an agent means = "acting on behalf of"

Let's remind ourselves folks, no regulation, no qualifications, training, exams etc required to be able to set up in business as an LA. Any fool can do it, and unfortunately many fools do.

Gasha wrote: »

I work for ME not the LL and I work in what I believe is the best way for all parties.
When someone acts like an a**hole I get shot!!!! And this goes for LL's as well as tenants!!

As stated before, you work for the LL: you know, that guy/gal who pays you your fat commission fee/ /renewals fees etc

tbs624

Soniclord - you need to perhaps pick your battles. As Isaid, above, the purpose of these "inspections" is ostensibly so that the LL can meet their S11 ( of the LL &T Act 1985) repairing obligations so its in your interest too.

You can ask the LA to change the date/ give a tighter time-frame *and* you can make it clear * in writing* that you wish to be present at all such inspections.

It's your home, so if, for example, you want to ask the LA to wipe his feet/remove his shoes, if you want to show him round rather than let him/her stroll at leisure then do so. Have a list of all repairs issues prepared in advance and pass this to the LA.

Keep all correspondence on repairs issue in writing, with a copy for your own reference.

You may like to read Shelter's excellent "Guide to Getting Repairs Done".

BitterAndTwisted

I would have thought that, given all of the niggles that the OP has with the property, they would be welcoming the landlord's inspection. As soon as they crossed the threshold I'd be pressing a nice, long list into their hands of all the things I'd been emailing them about.

I suspect that doing the inspection 5 days "early" is precisely in response to the tenant's observations and exactly why they have proposed doing it now. I find it remarkable that the OP doesn't seem to be able to appreciate this but just sees it as an opportunity to be outraged and frustrated.

geoffky

Ocd?????? I bet

real1314

Soniclord wrote: »

On most if not all draining boards (perhaps only older ones?) there is a circular object slightly raised up on them and it's come loose. Therefore the water that should be draining into the sink is leaking water into the cupboard instead.

Ah, that's nice and clear. It's a reversible sink/drainer and the screw fitted blanking plate for the alternative tap hole has come loose.

So, with a modicum of care, you could completely avoid water going through to the sink. And it's not really any sort of urgent problem. In fact with about 45 seconds of work, to avoid waiting in for a plumber, you could sort it youself. A ring of blue-tack would effect a temporary repair.

real1314

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Gasha

tbs624 wrote: »

Ooh, the power of being an LA eh?The tone of your post is a good example of the lack of professionalism in the unregulated world of letting agencies.


from your posts I would say that you don't have much of a clue yourself. Haha, I think you'll find I do!!!

Nope mate, it isn't . An LA acts solely for the LL, in the LL's interest. That's what being an agent means = "acting on behalf of" Not in my business, and it is my business so I'LL decide who I act 'on behalf of'

Let's remind ourselves folks, no regulation, no qualifications, training, exams etc required to be able to set up in business as an LA. Any fool can do it, and unfortunately many fools do. You are so right, but please don't assume you know me, my qualifications, training, skills etc because you obviously don't.

As stated before, you work for the LL: you know, that guy/gal who pays you your fat commission fee/ /renewals fees etc Fat commission?? Mmmm I wish, and as above I work for ME not the LL

I do love know-it-alls and do gooders!!