Agency taking the !!!!?? Regarding property visit

lil'H

Oh dear,

plumbers take time to come out, end of. Managing agents can check up on properties, they have given you notice, end of. Property seems fine and well looked after they may not come again 4 months later, you carry on being obnoxious and attempting to be obstructive to them and they will come as often as they can. If you were in my property and coming across the way you do I would instruct my agents to keep a close eye as I'd be very worried about your behaviour, my property my right to be concerned. Agent emailed at 5:25, get over it, that's life.

The people who work for the agency are doing their jobs, in an entirely appropriate way. They are not your personal slaves.


If you don't want these problems then save up and buy your own property. And if this is the way you approach all areas of your life and get into a stress so easily then find some ways to enjoy things more, or you'll end up making yourself ill.

Soniclord

lil'H wrote: »

Managing agents can check up on properties, they have given you notice, end of. Property seems fine and well looked after they may not come again 4 months later, you carry on being obnoxious and attempting to be obstructive to them and they will come as often as they can. If you were in my property and coming across the way you do I would instruct my agents to keep a close eye as I'd be very worried about your behaviour, my property my right to be concerned.

The people who work for the agency are doing their jobs, in an entirely appropriate way. They are not your personal slaves.

If you don't want these problems then save up and buy your own property. And if this is the way you approach all areas of your life and get into a stress so easily then find some ways to enjoy things more, or you'll end up making yourself ill.

Did you skim read the majority of this entire thread? I told the agent (that's right TOLD the agent) they would be coming every 6 months and that is more than enough for us both. THEY AGREED. END OF. And trust me they will NOT be coming as often as they can as I'd refuse them access.

As for if it was your property,you'd instruct them to keep a close eye. Well good luck with that as you obviously give a damn about your property, this landlord doesn't seem to give a !!!! period. And if he did instruct them to keep a close eye on this property I would sue them for breaching my right to 'quiet enjoyment'.

You say it's your property, therefore it would be your right to be concerned. Well it's my home and it's me paying the rent/and my rent that pays the landlords mortgage! So it's my rules not his. And I don't give a !!!! what any of you think. I pay the rent not you, not the landlord.

And I don't pay £495 a month to have those nosy !!!!!!!s coming round as and when they please nor will they be doing so. My home, my rules. I decide who comes in my home. NO EXCEPTIONS. I don't care who you are. And my motto is cross me AT YOUR peril!

As for the agents who work for the agency doing their jobs, they couldn't organise a !!!! up in a pub, nevermind do their jobs properly. And I wouldn't want them to be my personal slaves, but if I go through them to get anything done then they will damn well do as I ask! They are just as much my agent as they are the landlords. As they get a cut of the rent I PAY to the landlord via the agency.

By the way I rented previously through a private landlord not some scum !!!! agency, and he was brilliant, I only moved because this house is closer to town than I was previously. And as you know agencies are notoriously slack and !!!! at what they do. Use google search the forum. You'll find plenty of stories AGAINST agencies. Things I had no clue about until AFTER I signed on the dotted line...

You probably work for one which is why your kissing their !!!!. As for will I ever rent through an agency again. Will I bloody hell.

BitterAndTwisted wrote: »

I have a feeling you're the type who would have a row with yourself if there was no-one else was around to argue with.

Well you'd be wrong there wouldn't you! Seems you and others don't like people speaking their minds. What's up? Just because someone has an opinion that's not yours, does that make them enemy number 1!

You and others need to get over yourselves! Do you see what it says on the green banner not far from that Martin Lewis fellas face? It says BE NICE TO ALL MONEY SAVERS. So do just that and you and others stop being arsy just because I have an opinion.

So what if I'm not mainstream like all you other people, and just because I don't agree with you all and your little clique. Get over it and move on!

BitterAndTwisted

Don't be daft, there is no clique. Your problem as I see it is that you don't appear to need or want advice half the time you just need an excuse to go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on saying the same thing over and over again.

I don't understand why you persist in starting threads on here about your renting situation as you don't appear to need other's opinions at all, just some people wind up and to argue the toss with for a few pages.

Wee_Willy_Harris

You will pop back when you get the S21, won't you?

moromir

Soniclord wrote:

Do you see what it says on the green banner not far from that Martin Lewis fellas face? It says BE NICE TO ALL MONEY SAVERS.

Soniclord wrote:

And you learn to spell. It's in 'other words' not 'another words'....
So do some more research before thinking you can come up against me and win an argument or sound clever towards me, because I will wipe the floor with you. You can't even type properly lol.

Soniclord wrote:

Yeah if you say so.. If you haven't noticed I've provided an UPDATE!! On my other thread. And have asked for a bit more advice. Do you have a problem with that?

Soniclord wrote:

I'll answer you first because your full of !!!!.

Soniclord wrote:

And you are clearly a mug....That's just stupidity.

Soniclord wrote:

So it's my rules not his. And I don't give a !!!! what any of you think. I pay the rent not you, not the landlord....I don't care who you are. And my motto is cross me AT YOUR peril!

Soniclord wrote:

You probably work for one which is why your kissing their !!!!.

Soniclord wrote:

You and others need to get over yourselves! ...you and others stop being arsy

I really hope you are able to sort out your issues with the landlord and the agency, but please appreciate a lot of these posters are experienced landlords and tenants who are taking time out of their day to provide you with accurate information to help you resolve your problems.

Swearing at everyone and generally insisting you are right (when you have been incorrect on some finer points and technicalities of the law) is not going to win you any goodwill when you really do need help.

Even if you don't wish to take the information you are being given at face value, please go and look up the points they were referring to independantly so that you can see for yourself.

And then go and enjoy the rest of this lovely sunny day to take your mind off it all :beer:

DVardysShadow

Soniclord wrote: »

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I have had a bad landlord in the past which is why I'm like I am now.

Perhaps have a think on the difference between directed anger and undirected anger. It is bad enough when the anger towards a past landlord spills over onto a later landlord and agent - but when it spills over onto a forum of totally uninvolved people.

It is a case of don't get mad, get even. If someone has exploited a lack of knowledge on your part, just get the knowledge for the future and deal with a new landlord and agent as totally separate people, just be firm about your rights, but don't inflict the anger of the past on them. This is the optimum place to be, they cannot get one over on you - and if you don't get angry they cannot trip you up and get one over on you that way.

Similarly, here, if you don't let past anger spill over, you'll get much more help from people, you'll know your rights and the Agent will know not to mess with you without any need for unpleasantness.

Cissi

Soniclord wrote: »

Yes but in the wording was also:

Therefore we will gain access with our management keys (subject to holding a set)

Which forgive me if I'm wrong (I can't be though surely?) if they're saying WE WILL gain access. That's a pretty BOLD statement. It's them assuming I'd be okay with it. But I'm not nor would ever be. And why I was confused is the letter says they WILL gain access if I'm not there. Without asking my permission or asking if I'm okay with it. And when they replied to my E-Mail they said they wouldn't enter the property without me being there. But the letter said different. So obviously it's a bit of a contradiction between what was said in the letter and what was communicated to me via E-Mail.

For goodness sake, lighten up! The letter is clearly a standard one, hence the "subject to holding a set" phrase. They obviously hold keys to some of the properties that they manage but not others, and this depends on their arrangement with the LL and tenant of each property. As I read it, their standard letter is saying that "if our agreement is that we hold a key and can let ourselves in, then we'll do so" - and since they've stated in an individual email to you that they won't, then they won't. Granted, the letter could be better worded but is this worth getting so worked up about?

As for this nonsense:

Soniclord wrote: »

but if I go through them to get anything done then they will damn well do as I ask! They are just as much my agent as they are the landlords. As they get a cut of the rent I PAY to the landlord via the agency.

Umm no, they don't work for you, they work for the landlord, period. You may not like it, but that's how it is. They have to fulfil the requirements of the law on the LL's behalf, but they do NOT have to follow your instructions. Yes, if their remit covers repairs, then it's their responsibility to get these carried out, in a REASONABLE way. Unfortunately there is quite a bit of leeway in what's "reasonable", or at least things have to go seriously wrong before you'd get anywhere against them in court. That's why it can be useful to maintain a good relationship with them so that they at least try their best...

ivavoucher

OP, Fancy a pint sometime, maybe a little light banter and man hug.

Tiddlywinks

Soniclord wrote: »

As for the 5 days difference. I really don't care about it being 5 days difference. But if they're wanting to play by the rules then like I said fairs fair. Make 2 months actually be 2 months and not 55 days.

Can't say fairer than that can I.

You are coming across like a child stamping his feet during a 'terrible twos' tantrum. This visit is only 5 days early - why not just comply and appear to be cooperative and save the indignation for when something really does require a firm response.

Soniclord wrote: »

I told the agent (that's right TOLD the agent) they would be coming every 6 months and that is more than enough for us both. THEY AGREED. END OF. And trust me they will NOT be coming as often as they can as I'd refuse them access.

Agents are people too, you know - treat them with courtesy and they can be a great asset to you as your bridge to your LL. Treat them badly and they will be less inclined to assist; that's just human nature.

Have you actually had a CONVERSATION with them rather than just addressing them as you would an enemy?

Well it's my home and it's me paying the rent/and my rent that pays the landlords mortgage! So it's my rules not his. And I don't give a !!!! what any of you think. I pay the rent not you, not the landlord.

You need to get some help... seriously, your reaction to this is completely out of proportion to the actual issues. If you can't see that then you do need some help.

And I don't pay £495 a month to have those nosy !!!!!!!s coming round as and when they please nor will they be doing so. My home, my rules. I decide who comes in my home. NO EXCEPTIONS. I don't care who you are. And my motto is cross me AT YOUR peril!

Angry with implied threats - again, get some medical help.

By the way I rented previously through a private landlord not some scum !!!! agency..... why are they scum? They are 'agents' - the name gives a clue as to what they do - provided a service to the LL to protect him from dealing with people like you.

You and others need to get over yourselves!
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:Pot, Kettle meet Black!

So what if I'm not mainstream like all you other people, and just because I don't agree with you all and your little clique. Get over it and move on! No, I'd respectively suggest that you get over your hugely inflated issues and get some perspective.

Do you actually realise that you come across as particularly aggressive and nasty?

You've got some issues with your current tenancy - deal with them in a polite and measured way. After all, you have entered into a professional contract with your LL (via the agent). In order to maintain a productive working relationship you need to communicate less emotionally; giving your point in a balanced and brief way so as to get to the main points and don't write huge pieces that could rival War and Peace in the literature stakes.

Finally, I think you should prepare yourself to receive notice as soon as your contract allows because you are coming across as a bit of a prima donna that any LL would want rid off to save the hassle - good luck with getting a reference as well.... the agent could rightly say that you have been aggressive (and produce correspondence to support this) which will make finding another property more of a struggle.

Mum-2-Be

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

You will pop back when you get the S21, won't you?

my thoughts exactly! Bet the LA are counting the days to get shot of you.

I have privately rented for years and every LA has given me at least 24hrs notice and generallly say in their letter "if you arent available we have keys so we'll do the inspection anyway". If you dont like it speak to them, and Id get the 6mth only inspection agreement in writing also.

What are you hiding that you dont want the LA to look in all the rooms, they let you look on your viewing didnt they?
Every inspection Ive had, the LA has been in the house less than 5 minutes, any probs phone us and they are off.

Id also go to the docs for help with your paranioa, not good for your health.