Petrol Prices

pwales_2

da
i can see it it totaly unpractical to administer but its a bitter pill to swallow extra vat which hits the lowest incomes hardest.

if you can afford an accountant you will pay none or a massive reduced amount of vat of everything

the bankers are now been given the green light for big bonuses (for handeling our money to bail them out)

the tresury is still giving billions to forean aid

the enviromentay duty the goverment is paying is nonsence(global warming been proved as a natural event
tax tax tax tax oh and more tax

1.30 per ltr come on that aint right

pwales_2

a little vat break on this shouldnt be to much to ask

Petrol Prices To Hit £70 A Tank By Easter

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(c) Sky News 2011, 10:26, Thursday 13 January 2011

Motorists' pockets will be hit even harder this year as petrol retailers predict the average cost of filling up a tank could soar to £70.
Planned government tax rises could see a litre of unleaded rocket to £1.36, while diesel could go up to £1.40.
Representatives from major motoring organisations are urging Chancellor George Osborne to scrap plans for a 5p rise in fuel duty in his April budget.
Already hard-hit families could face a total rise of 8p per litre at the pumps as oil prices also continue to increase.
Brian Madderson, chairman of the Retail Motor Industry Federation's petrol division (RMI), has written an open letter to Mr Osborne calling for him to "halt the relentless rise in fuel prices".
Mr Madderson said: "Our unequivocal recommendation is that the Government now abandon the fuel duty`escalator' principle as this is a legacy of your predecessors.
"We are mindful that the plan to increase duty yet again by 1p a litre in 'real terms' from April 1 will add a further 4-5p a litre to the retail price at the pumps for all grades of fuel."
Mr Madderson's plea is echoed by commuters and small businesses who are demanding action from ministers.
Campaigners say people will be unable to travel to work and businesses will suffer financially following the fuel hikes.
Elspeth Connolly, of Internet Unlimited LLC, told Sky News Online: "Some staff have been unable to come into work by car.
"People are really considering where they drive."
Motorists in West London say their day-to-day lives have been affected.
Merle Goll, 35, a designer from Twickenham, said: "It keeps you from making the short journey and this is something that we have had to cut down on.
"They're incredibly high, ten years ago I remember prices of petrol being around 68p a litre."
Kuluindesr Singh, 40, from Southall, told Sky News Online: "This time of the year prices have gone very high. Before, the money I was paying for a full tank now only equates to half a tank of fuel."
The Government is now facing calls to introduce their fair fuel price stabiliser policy, which would see fuel duty fall when oil prices rise, and then go back up when they moderate.
The policy was shelved after the coalition was formed.
John Walker, national chairman of the Federation of Small Businesses, said: "In opposition, the Conservative Party promised to put a fuel duty stabiliser in place - something the FSB has been calling for. But they have failed to deliver.
"As such, they are placing strain on already hard-hit businesses cash-flow. It is imperative the Government acts now and introduces the stabiliser to avoid a relentless flow of fuel duty increases that simply put small firms on a knife edge."
Some activists have called for a repeat of the crippling fuel strikes of 2000, when farmers and lorry drivers staged go-slow protests and refinery blockades that bled dry more than 90% of UK petrol stations - all because prices had gone above 80p a litre.
David Handley, chairman of Farmers For Action (FFA), who was part of the protest said: "I can see a fuel protest happening again very imminently and if it does, we will support them without a doubt.
"It is an unfair situation on the general public and they will be making a poor return on the money they pay for fuel."
Reports had suggested that Unite General Secretary Len McCluskey would back a strike, but a spokesperson for the union dismissed them as "rubbish".
Most fuel supplies are distributed by haulage contractors, who not only tender for the work, but also negotiate separate wage and condition deals with their drivers.
The Road Haulage Association (RHA) says the increase in petrol pump rises are "financially crippling" the way the association delivers its policies and looks after its members.
But it ruled out organising a strike, pointing out that new legislation allowed drivers' operators licences to be confiscated for taking part.
An HM Treasury spokesperson said: "In order to address the country's record budget deficit, it is necessary to implement the fuel duty increases already set and legislated for.
"Tough decisions are unavoidable and the Government has been clear that the burden of deficit reduction will have to be shared."

The_mangler

I was only thinking about this today. I live rurally, our nearest supermarket is 20 miles away (and dont deliver) so I have no option but to go there. My husband has to attend many hospital appointments at our nearest hospital which is 50 miles away but as some have correctly said, we can claim travel expenses for these. However we cannot claim for the three types of counselling appointments he has regularly, not the trips to the chemists (5 miles away). No I cannot see a way this could be done, but it does irk me somewhat to be paying so much for fuel (and we are in one of the most expensive areas for fuel) with no other option available.

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dusbury wrote: »

As a amputee confined to a wheelchair Petrol prices are not taken in to account that We have to use bigger cars longer journeys to hospitals etc all you hear is. walk more I wish.:j or ride your bike. We don't get extra help with the fuel so please stop bleating on about how hard your done by.

I have to go 100 miles round trip to the hospital, and it costs me each week near a hundred pound in fuel then the parking at the hospital have to pay £1.70 for two hours.

Sorry about the environment but that's my life.
Very soon they will stop the medicine, as I will be to old then there won't be a problem.:A

depending on which benefits you receive you can reclaim the cost of petrol/parking for personal hospital appointments(not just visiting someone)either from the hospital(with proof of appt.and benefit entitlement)or from the dwp(via JC+ or BDC,cant remember which)

http://www.patient.co.uk/health/Help-with-Travel-Costs-to-Hospital.htm

easy

pwales wrote: »

if you can afford an accountant you will pay none or a massive reduced amount of vat of everything

Where on earth have you got that idea from?

pwales_2

i know a few self employed tradesmen
they claim back everything fuel ,phones, electricity, most only working 16 hrs on the books (which i garrantee will rise to 24 when needed !) most taking a minimum wage

and they dont hide the fact as it is all done through an accoutantant and the tax man (and perfectly legal)

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the best one is they claim the depressiation of there vehicals as well and i dont just mean the vans the large 4x4 to

easy

pwales wrote: »

i know a few self employed tradesmen
they claim back everything fuel ,phones, electricity, most only working 16 hrs on the books (which i garrantee will rise to 24 when needed !) most taking a minimum wage

and they dont hide the fact as it is all done through an accoutantant and the tax man (and perfectly legal)

edit:
the best one is they claim the depressiation of there vehicals as well and i dont just mean the vans the large 4x4 to

I think the "green eye" is affecting your judgement here. Yes, people in business do claim back VAT on their business expenses. But there are regulations and 'reasonable limits' in place which prevent anyone from legitimately claiming back VAT on non- business expenses. As I said earlier, if you reclaim VAT on fuel, you have to keep records of mileage, to justify the amount of VAT you are reclaiming, and these would be examined in a VAT inspection, and compared against your sales invoices, so you can't just make-up journeys).

Similarly, they can reclaim VAT on electricity supplied to a business premises. If they work from home, they will only be allowed to reclaim a small proportion of their electricity bills against business profits . If they reclaim more, and this is discovered on a VAT inspection, they will have to repay the over-claim, with interest, and could be fined for non-compliance.

As for depreciation on vehicles, well of course that can be claimed against business profits, if the vehicle is being used on business, and if a guy is grafting for a living, then of course he should be allowed to choose his vehicle. How would you like it if Motability only ever allowed you to have the smallest car suitable for your needs, with only basic specification?
Incidentally, your tradesmen cannot claim back VAT when buying a car, altho they can if they buy a van, and tax allowances have been cut on the bigger, gas-guzzling vehicles.

You don't think these guys are also paying their accountants, who advise them on what they can and can't legitimately reclaim ??

Oh and I'm intruiged as to how a guy on minimum wage can buy and run this fancy 4X4 you think he's claiming depreciation on ??

pwales_2

easy easy :rotfl:

the 4x4 is classed as a company vehical so can be used as a van,
but it can also be used by the wife to take the kids the back has child seats in (so the boot is not being used as the van).
and he tells me all the time when we go out sorry we are in the van again "shes got the jeep"
im not green eyed at all he is a very good mate of mine,
like i have said he is not doing anything wrong.
i was just answering your question on how i thought a good acountant can help with vat

he tells me that he only takes minimum wage the rest he claims back (his words)

he is a very good mate and i beleive what he says

easy

pwales , look mate, I'm a professional bookkeeper - I'm not going to argue with you, but you do have a slightly exaggerated view on this, trust me.

pwales_2

im not arguing with you
i am answering your questions with what i see hear and am directly told.
and at the end of the day vat is a tax which will affect low income hardest and should be looked into being reduced not increesesd,
that is my point not the technical ins and outs of an accountants "breifs"
you just seem hell bent on trying to make it look like i dont know my !!!! from my elbow, and ignoring the point of the thread