Petrol Prices

dusbury

As a amputee confined to a wheelchair Petrol prices are not taken in to account that We have to use bigger cars longer journeys to hospitals etc all you hear is. walk more I wish.:j or ride your bike. We don't get extra help with the fuel so please stop bleating on about how hard your done by.

I have to go 100 miles round trip to the hospital, and it costs me each week near a hundred pound in fuel then the parking at the hospital have to pay £1.70 for two hours.

Sorry about the environment but that's my life.
Very soon they will stop the medicine, as I will be to old then there won't be a problem.:A

dmg24

Do you receive DLA?

pwales_2

i pay no vat on my car (because modified from new)
i also dont pay vat on anything that is directly needed because of my disability i.e wheelcahairs hand rails etc

i need a car as i cannot walk at all or ride a bike etc,
so why cant we claim the vat back from petrol as it it directly needed for our disabilities?

before anyone says "thats what dla is for" the dla pays for the car which is vat free so why is the fuel not vat free as well ?

Mupette

I'm disabled too, but sorry i don't agree that we should have cheaper fuel.

There are other ways for us to get about, but we choose our cars as easier, convienence and cheaper.

Hosptial visits - hospital can provide transport to take you to and from hospital and yes they are for you.

Bristol has dial a ride, no fee, ring in advance of appointment, downside you will be in minibus with other people, although i would see it not as a downside but company, someone to talk to.

free bus pass.
discount taxi's

People grumble enough that we get things for free, some we deserve some is a bonus, we should be grateful that we get these cars, the only thing we pay on them is fuel, the mot/tax/insurance/service is all free. I am not greedy, i am grateful i have a car with motability, my hospital appts are not as bad as they are only 40 miles a round trip, i would have to take several buses to get there.. etc.


Sorry but some people are getting to be greedy and see dla as a cash cow, it is help towards your mobility and care needs.

easy

dusbury wrote: »

I have to go 100 miles round trip to the hospital, and it costs me each week near a hundred pound in fuel then the parking at the hospital have to pay £1.70 for two hours.

Blimey mate I don't know what you are driving, but if it costs you £100 to travel 100 miles every week, it needs a service

No obviously you are doing other journeys too, but if you can't afford to spend that money on fuel, then like everyone else you have to see if you can reduce the number of journeys you do.. combine shopping with going on another outing where you pass the shop anyway (or do a big online shop once every few weeks when you can buy enough to get free delivery ) - that kind of thing.

Your dla is there to help towards paying for these things. I do know that the dla hasn't risen in proportion with the rises in fuel over the last few years - neither have the government approved allowances for business mileage claimants actually, so we're not the only ones caught in the trap - but these are hard times for everyone, and I don't think we can ask for more privileges right now.

pwales wrote: »

so why cant we claim the vat back from petrol as it it directly needed for our disabilities?

before anyone says "thats what dla is for" the dla pays for the car which is vat free so why is the fuel not vat free as well ?

Because that would be IMPOSSIBLE to implement, without being HUGELY open to fraud and abuse, and causing even more resentment from some sections of society.

pwales_2

it would not be hard to implement ,i dont mean pay less at the pump i mean keep reciets and hand them in at the end of the year and claim it back.

kichens can be bought vat free if designed lower or adapted for disabled use.

i think fuel added to the list would be good :j:j:j

easy

pwales wrote: »

it would not be hard to implement ,i dont mean pay less at the pump i mean keep reciets and hand them in at the end of the year and claim it back.

kichens can be bought vat free if designed lower or adapted for disabled use.

i think fuel added to the list would be good :j:j:j

Oh yes, and how do you PROVE that these receipts were only for fuel put in YOUR vehicle, how do you PROVE that all the journeys were for the disabled person's benefit ? And how much would such a scheme cost to administer, on top of the revenue lost in the refunded VAT?

If I was in a position of influence, I'd run a mile from a sugestion like this.

pwales_2

how does any company /taxi /farmer /owner of a boat PROVE there fuel receits,
well we would do the same

it could be funded by proper policing of the sickness benefits system which are being abused like the golfer in the news today.

easy

pwales wrote: »

how does any company /taxi /farmer /owner of a boat PROVE there fuel receits,
well we would do the same

Well a company/taxi driver does it through the tax system. Company management check that their employees are claiming their mileages properly, and reclaim the VAT accordingly. They are subject to possible VAT inspections at any time. Same with taxi drivers and other self-employed folk.
To do it in the same way for folk on DLA we would all have to become VAT registered.
Now, first of all the VAT offices couldn't cope with that number of new registrations.
Secondly, a HUGE number of people just wouldn't be able to cope with the administration involved in the record keeping (because you would have to justify the receipts you submitted with a list of journeys taken, which is what a business has to do) .
Thirdly, we would have to be prepared to accept spot inspections of our records, and I can see potential for a lot of bleating about that, given that many DLA claimants complain when they are asked to renew their DLA claim confirming that they still qualify for the allowance.

It just isn't practical.

MrsManda

Comment on the current consultation document for DLA reform and put your points on there.

http://www.dwp.gov.uk/consultations/2010/dla-reform.shtml

DLA is a non income assessed benefit and personally I think the DLA is there to pay for the extra costs of being disabled but asking the population to pay for the VAT on your petrol as well as providing a car, insurance, MOT, and car tax is ridiculous.

Everyone who drives a vehicle has to pay for the vehicle, insurance, MOT, car maintanence, car tax and petrol and they often don't have the choice of not having a car and using public transport instead due to their home location or their work. These not costs which are
unique to disabled people.

If you are on a low income you CAN claim petrol costs for hospital visits etc.
http://www.nhs.uk/nhsengland/Healthcosts/pages/Travelcosts.aspx

pwales_2

yeah i know it would never work.
big shame though, still we better keep paying the vat to pay for all the oversea aid