Petrol Prices

Indie_Kid

paddedjohn wrote: »

Dont get me wrong im not having a go, all im trying to get across is that if people want a vat refund then it should be for all not just the disabled as we are feeling the pinch probably more than some realise, hours cut, wage cuts = less money to buy fuel in the first place.

But unlike many disabled people, you can walk to places. I can't be given a map and told "this is where we are and we need to get to here" - I will get lost.

At least you can get on public transport - we still have buses with steps. These are no good for someone like me who has no depth perception.

jblack_2

sh1305 wrote: »

But unlike many disabled people, you can walk to places.

True, but unlike many disabled people there are a lot more people who need their vehicle for more than just a visit to the shops.

You seem to think that driving is only a necessity for the disabled. Everyone else can use public transport or walk. I'd soon be out of work if I didn't drive but hey I can walk right?

I think any disabled person should have a decent quality of life but there are those who think they should be handed everything on a plate.

Indie_Kid

Many disabled people have a lot of medical appointments to attend, too as well as the normal everyday things that non-disabled people do. (work, socialise, etc) I was told (thankfully, this isn't going to happen) that I would have to go a hospital 40 miles away for regular treatment. As from next year, I will have yearly visits to a hospital 6 miles away. How many non-disabled people have that too? I also have to attend the same hospital every 3 months or so for another disability.

No-one is saying that we want everything handed to us on a plate - being disabled is very expensive.

pwales_2

i would like to point out that ALOT of people on dla are in work paying tax,

and i would also point out that cars that are big enough for wheelchairs have advance payments (like the deposit mentioned)

if you took the time to read my post you will see that the goverment is considering fuel tax reduction to rural areas (not disabled) as they are the ones shouting loud enough.


i could,nt walk to work (as i am parapleigic)/ most buses have steps, even the lack of droped curbs or ones that are blocked by parked cars can stop me going where i need to be.

a car is a must for me , it is my legs,

i have worked 20 years(im not even 40 yet) untill the accident paying tax (high 40%) paying into a welfare state system, i am glad it was there to catch me and help me the way it does,

so if you are worrying about the "disabled" getting all these free things and tax breaks........dont forget........it will be there to catch you when you need it

jblack_2

Peanuckle wrote: »

It's already been pointed out to you that motobility cars aren't free but not all disabled people have motobility cars.

They are free and if you are entitled to one then you'd have one surely?

Peanuckle wrote: »

We pay out for our car just the same as you do as it's used for the entire family and not just for me. So tax, insurance, upkeep etc all cost no different to everyone else.

So why should the fuel be any different to everyone else?

Peanuckle wrote: »

The main difference that you don't seem to be getting is that, if you decide to go shopping, for example, then you have the choice of driving or using public transport. For a lot of disabled people, myself included, there isn't a choice. Buses are either not within reach or it's not physically possible for them to be used and the vast majority of taxis either aren't capable of transporting disabled patrons and their equipment or the companies choose to claim they're not insured to do so.:mad:

I live in a rural area with no bus service within 3 miles, is it really feasable for me to walk that with a 2 year old, then drag a weeks worth of shopping back the same way. So no it isn't a choice. With regards to taxis, there are many which are wheelchair accessible.

Peanuckle wrote: »

I'd love to be able to pop onto a bus to the train station and get a train down to visit my family but that just isn't possible. The only choice we have is for my husband to drive me down, not the quickest and certainly not the cheapest option, but it's the only way it can be done. Hopefully we'll be able to afford it this year as I haven't seen them for 2 years already and my parents are in their 70s

Why can't you use the train?

Indie_Kid

jblack wrote: »

They are free and if you are entitled to one then you'd have one surely?

How does paying £199 a month mean the car is "free"? Like pwales has said, many also pay advanced payments. There is someone on here who wanted a WAV. Everything they needed, they worked out that including DLA, it would cost them around £25k. They discovered it was cheaper to buy their own car.

and i would also point out that cars that are big enough for wheelchairs have advance payments (like the deposit mentioned)

Which could be anything up to a few grand or more.

I live in a rural area with no bus service within 3 miles, is it really feasable for me to walk that with a 2 year old, then drag a weeks worth of shopping back the same way. So no it isn't a choice. With regards to taxis, there are many which are wheelchair accessible.

Are you forced to live in this rural place? Yes, there are taxis are that wheelchair accessible - but these cost more than a standard taxi.

jblack_2

sh1305 wrote: »

As from next year, I will have yearly visits to a hospital 6 miles away. How many non-disabled people have that too?

I do, lol:p. I'm a type 1 diabetic and I visit the hospital clinic every 3 months (Approx 13 miles away). I also have to visit the local GP surgery every 6 months. I have to collect medication regularly too. I am not registered as disabled. Should I get a fuel reduction though?

Indie_Kid

jblack wrote: »

I do, lol:p. I'm a type 1 diabetic and I visit the hospital clinic every 3 months (Approx 13 miles away). I also have to visit the local GP surgery every 6 months. I have to collect medication regularly too. I am not registered as disabled. Should I get a fuel reduction though?

Registering disabled doesn't exist any more. You could probably get on a bus - like I've said, many disabled people can't.

jblack_2

sh1305 wrote: »

How does paying £199 a month mean the car is "free"? Like pwales has said, many also pay advanced payments.

As I have said before, my Father has a Motability car, it's a nice 60 plate Ford Focus. The only payment he made from his own pocket was an initial £150. This was to upgrade the model to include a heated element windscreen. The only money he has to pay for the next 3 years he has the car is for petrol.

sh1305 wrote: »

Are you forced to live in this rural place? Yes, there are taxis are that wheelchair accessible - but these cost more than a standard taxi.

No I'm not forced to live here but it's not me that's wanting a fuel rebate is it? The accessible taxis are larger than 'normal' taxis and cost more for the owners to run. It's only reasonable for them to cost more.

Indie_Kid

jblack wrote: »

No I'm not forced to live here but it's not me that's wanting a fuel rebate is it?

Yet, you're moaning how unfair it would be if some disabled people got this fuel rebate.

The accessible taxis are larger than 'normal' taxis and cost more for the owners to run. It's only reasonable for them to cost more.

Is it reasonable for the disabled person to have to pay the extra? If they weren't disabled, they wouldn't have to.