MSE Parents Club Part 16

sir_monster

Re spoons and blw I use a pre loaded spoon too or spoon it to them - like yoghurt!

Re cups I use a cheapo tomee tipee one, seems quite happy with that?

I think t is waking in early hours due to hunger as he is not taking much at all for his last feed - I usually give him formula so only about 3 ounces. I would be interested in anyones bedtime routine bf or ff to see how I can get him to increase this. At the mo his feeding/eating is something like this - so any suggestions to tweak it would be welcomed.

7ish - bf, then breakfast.
10 to 11 - bf - thinking of giving him a snack.
12ish- lunch, then nap.
2ish - bf, afternoon snack.
Then he has been having another nap due to short lunch time one.
4 to 5 ish he usually wants another small bf, but should I cut this out?
5 to 6 - tea
7 - last feed.

aless02

We use the Tommee Tippee cup that everyone's recommend as well. Once upon a time, I won a Nuby cup that uses a valved straw, but Finn hates it and can't figure it out! He'll prolly graduate onto real cups soon, as I quite often let him drink out of my open-mouthed water bottle and such and he manages fine.

MERFE

dont think what we do will help as everyone different and Bob has formula but here goes

6am bottle 7am breakfast, 9-10 nap, 10am drink, 11am lunch, 12:30-1ish nap till 2:30-3ish,Bottle when he wakes from nap, 4pm dinner, 5:30 bath 6:30 last milk.

Mind Bob wakes up early anyway so probably no help at all lol He is normally awake around 5am -5:30 ish but is happy to wait for his milk so not hungar waking him, think its more the light and birds etc It'll be better in the winter.

*BigBird*

Joe's FF too. Our routine is

7am Bottle
8:30 breakfast
9:30 - 11:30 nap
12 bottle
1:30 lunch
3 - 4 nap
4 bottle
5:30 tea
7pm bottle

These are all very approximate times - particularly where naps are concerned! When he's with the childminder he tends to have a short morning nap in the buggy when she does the school run, then a longer nap in the afternoon. And we were completely out of kilter yesterday as he didn't wake up til 8:30 - not that I'm going to complain about that on a Sunday morning

I try to make sure there's a gap of at least an hour between a bottle feed and a solids feed so that he is actually hungry. We don't really do snacks between solid feeds at the moment as the bottle feeds bridge the gaps.

Bedtime routine starts at 6:30. DH usually tops and tails him, I bathe him and get him dressed in his pyjamas, then DH does the last bottle and puts him to bed just after 7.

I suppose with BF it's hard to tell exactly how much T drinks during the day. We give Joe 7oz bottles and he normally drinks around 6 oz. Sometimes less, sometimes more (which is why I keep giving 7oz rather than dropping to 6) He was on 5 bottles a day until a couple of weeks ago but has dropped one now that he's on 3 meals a day. It wasn't a conscious decision to cut one out; now that he has 3 meals and also stays awake longer between naps and has 2 naps instead of 3, the times of his bottles shifted and he just naturally dropped one.

Do you actually feed T when he wakes in the early hours? Can you try not offering the feed so he gets the idea that he needs to eat/drink during the day?

sir_monster

Thanks Merfe and Bigbird, is hard to tell when bf if taking a lot or just snacking or having a drink! Also t uses bf to get to sleep or back to sleep so doesn't help? I have tried DH trying him with water but isn't interested, plus he did a bottle the other night and took 150ml so guess he is hungry. Just need to work out a better routine which involves more intake during day so doesn't take at night.

CL

Hi. I just got the cheapest sippy cup in Tesco (apart from the value one) which was a Tommee Tippee one like this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tommee-Tippee-First-Cup-Cyan/dp/B002C1ATCY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1307974026&sr=8-1 but it is only £1.41 in Tesco. I gave it to LO with her first spoonfeed and she grabbed it and gave it to herself. From then I just let her look after her water. She takes a sip every 2 mouthfuls. It's a good cup as it doesn't free flow when turned upside down, she has to suck a bit.

Nightmare day today. My elderly FIL had a hospital appointment and as everyone else is working and I'm still on maternity leave, I said I'd take him. It's half an hour to the hospital and last time it took me half an hour to get a parking space and to the place he needed to be. I left an hour before his appointment and he wasn't called for an hour. The appointment was 45 mins and half an hour drive home, so out with LO for 3hrs 15 mins at this point. We called in to see his even more elderly sister on the way home and she was feeling so ill I had to call out the doctor and stay with her until he came (2 hours later) and make her something to eat. I hadn't eaten anything when I left the house this morning and was starving, but luckily had packed LO lunch, dessert and a baby biscuit. Knackered.

gizmodo_2

delain wrote: »

You know BF and FF babies are from the same species, and have the same nutritional needs. If the weaning group is making out that FF babies are that different maybe you should remind them that they are all humans, it's not like feeding a cat vs feeding a rabbit
I think maybe it came across wrong, what I meant was the thing with FF babies having water to help bowel movements vs BF not needing water for that reason. But she didn't ever say anything in the class, she just said it was a good idea to get babies drinking water so they get used to it, but now people are telling me BF babies don't need water. I'm just confused.

They reduce their BF's/bottles when they start eating more food so yes by this point they need other drinks, water, juice whatever.
Makes sense to me.

This is the time to get them used to new tastes. Unless you really want to be BF'ing every 5 minutes until your child goes to school because they aren't allowed to drink anything else
Well yeah - this is what I thought.

Oh and whilst you could give your baby a drink in an open cup, I would make sure you have an entire change of clothes and a plastic mat on the floor first :rotfl::rotfl:
haha - I know, I'm naive - first baby and all that. I'm sure I'll be grabbing for the sippy cup, but I can dream...;)

All mine have had cups with spouts and none of them have grown up hideously deformed and they all now drink nicely out of normal glasses. Whilst it would be great to skip the plastic cup stage, it isn't practical really (for me anyway) and you did to do what is right for you, not what someone running a group (who must think you've got a load of spare time to clean up all that mess) has to say about it.
As have 99.999% of the population Like you say I guess I was thinking it'd be great to bypass the weaning off a sippy cup.

Please don't take this as any kind of dig at you Giz, because it isn't. I love you honest!
Don't worry, I haven't.

It's about all the weirdness being spouted by the NHS at the moment where no one is allowed to use their common sense anymore :eek::eek:

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smartie12

Hiya!!:D Long time no see...

How are the pg ladies doing??

PP... Daisy has had a cough for months and months and gets v wheezy. They think she has asthma and has 2 inhalers. They never offered AB's which is what I was expecting. Must add she only got the one inhaler at first! Hope squeak's cough gets sorted.

Daisy has had her PINK tommee tippee from day dot and loves tipping it upside down. Can you imagine if it was an open cup lol:eek:

Today she has eaten a huge portion of my hm cottage pie and loved it sooo much she chucked her breadsticks on the floor with disgust!

Hope all LOs are growing nicely:)

delain

gizmodo wrote: »

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Sorry, it wasn't you that made me a bit cross I promise :o It's things I've heard (in RL) and some things on netmums which just made me think there was something whiffy afoot with the powers that be :o

Paranoid PG lady sorry

rach

giz - i'd just offer water with meals and he'll take it if he wants it! L will make clear if he does or not...sometimes he takes some in them spits it back out lol. all part of the fun! I think the point is if bf on demand you can, should you wish, provide them with all their liquid, but i know I wanted to get him used to water too!

delain, you crack me up too...so right though! we do sometimes use the doidy cup before bath time but tbh he takes in more air in the big gulps!

well i went to my meeting this aft, was out almost 5 hours and dh and L were fine. L refused the bottle though lol, dh tried putting the formula in a cup and he just pushed that away too and had a big feed when i got in, then his tea but wasn't bothered at bedtime. he also managed almost 1.5 hour nap which is a big improvement on recent days so am crossing my fingers it helps tonight!

was gonna say more but mind has gone blank and i'm tired so bed is calling!