Boxing day tube strikes

dobsoncrew

esmerobbo wrote: »

With regards to the one under which must be truly traumatic for the driver, can we really base a wage on something that may happen?

I can think of many jobs which are less well paid but traumatic episode could happen!

Not may happen it does happen

dobsoncrew

mjm3346 wrote: »

From 2009
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/road-and-rail-transport/5496579/Tube-drivers-earn-10000-a-year-more-than-nurses.html


According to that you work a 35 hour week.

Get paid for 35 hours and work 40 including breaks

wealdroam

dobsoncrew wrote: »

Not may happen it does happen

May not happen to any particular driver.

esmerobbo

wealdroam wrote: »

May not happen to any particular driver.

Saved me the job!;)

lucylucky

dobsoncrew wrote: »

Get paid for 35 hours and work 40 including breaks

Not getting paid for breaks is hardly uncommon so what you mean is that you work and get paid for 35 hours.

If you are working through your breaks then that is a different matter.

Rolandtheroadie

geordieracer wrote: »

So they are going to try and hold them ransom for the 4 weeks overall that both olympics are on for?

I dont think that is too bad given that its for the benefit of the uks whole image around the world for THE most prestigious sports event.

Brilliant.

No, the company just happen have put this into the pay deal.
Like the misconception they've automatically knocked back the 5.2%, it grows arms and legs then becomes fact in some peoples heads.

Homersimpson

Striking never does anyone any good in the long term, ask the British car industry or the Miners!

Wait 5-10years and then ask the Post Office. No service is inexpendible and if you make it unreliable other alternatives will develop.

Personally I have never travelled on the tube and can't see that I will ever need to.

ryantcb

Unskilled job being a tube driver probably explains the near 6 months training and the yearly reassessments. If only all unskilled jobs where that easy to learn.
Why draw comparisons with underground systems from different countries? Thats a bit like saying Germany has made the Euro work so why are Greece Ireland Portugal all moaning about it? The London Underground is far older than any of the others and carries by miles far more passengers in its network of tunnels every minute.

Hitting someone with a tube train is just like you would imagine it in a horror movie. Im guessing You have all seen a persons eyes as they hit your windscreen and smashes through whilst the rest of the train help decapitate them and your left covered in their blood? When that happens the driver is arrested, given a breathalyser and interviewed. They then have to attend the hearing and relive the events and many families of the suicide want to speak to the driver and you try talking to the mother of whos only child you killed? It aint nice.
Unskilled and overpaid really?

dacouch

Homersimpson wrote: »

Striking never does anyone any good in the long term, ask the British car industry or the Miners!

Wait 5-10years and then ask the Post Office. No service is inexpendible and if you make it unreliable other alternatives will develop.

Personally I have never travelled on the tube and can't see that I will ever need to.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10332333

mjm3346

dobsoncrew wrote: »

Get paid for 35 hours and work 40 including breaks

mjm3346 wrote: »

We have seen no evidence you work 5 hours "unpaid" each week but regardless of 35 or 40 hours it's still £40k plus per year and free travel for 2 which is potentially worth over £6,000 of earned income to other Londoners, on top of your figure of £43k thats around £50,000 in pay and travel benefits without even thinking of looking at the pension available.

A coach Driver has far more to deal with than a tube driver and they are lucky to get half the £50,000 pay and travel package tube drivers have, they do not get to retire at 60 and get nothing like the pension, sickness benefits etc tube staff have.

ryantcb wrote: »

Also its not the union holding london to ransom its TFL. They have the monopoly in London for all transport and roads so can and do charge the public extortionate fares. But cary on siding with them.

It is the union holding London to ransom, if only a fair rate for the job (no more than the average for a coach driver) was paid then fares could be slashed and/or far more spent on upgrades to the system.

Higher staff costs = higher fares for all.