New Deal: Not Interested.

jennikitten

red_devil wrote: »

i find new deal to be a kind of bullying do this or we wont pay you yet prisoners get fed and looked after.

I think the work experience is slave labour and rarely leads to a job. I definetely think you should get a choice of where you do your w/e?

This is a joke right?? Are you saying you'd prefer to be locked up & kept away from your loved ones as well as all the other complications that go alongside a prison conviction rather than actually get off your !!!! and do something towards earning your money for 3 months of your life?

nocareer wrote: »

Heres another point.
The dole are happy to give people who commit Benefit Fraud hardship payments, yet refuse to pay people who are on New Deal who don't want to participate.

Where is the justice in that!

Where's the justice in me & all the other tax payers out there paying for you to sit on your !!!! all day watching Jeremy Kyle & complaining about gays & immigrants?

You're not the only one who can make sweeping generalisations you know

Arg

Kimitatsu wrote: »

If this thread does not calm down I WILL close it!

Nocareer - you probably know a lot of convicts already! How many people do you know who have points on their licence or a speeding fine? They, just as much as someone who is on probation are a convicted criminal. So please before you get on your high horse remember that we are all one decision away from a prison sentance.

Equally with mental health patients, how many people do you know that have suffered from depression? Suffered from stress? All of those are mental health illnesses, you could find that some of the people you believe to be fine upstanding citizens come into either or both of these categories, and yet you would think nothing of working along side them.

I work with both of the above groups and there are some really nice people in both, there are also some that I dont care for but I could say the same of most parts of society!

Prejudice comes in many forms and this thread has only sought to highlight the views that you hold which to be honest should make you think about your attitude in general. If you were to get a job interview would you specify on your application that you would not work with any of these groups? I would hope not, so perhaps you should think about why you would choose not to go on a training course with the same groups!

It's pretty obvious to anyone with two braincells to rub together to understand exactly what he meant by, "I don't want to take part in it, as they send you on Work Placements with the Mentally Ill, Community Service Offenders etc.."
Here's a little hint,we aren't talking about someone who's got speeding points as a criminal we aren't talking about mentally ill people who may be a little sad or stressed,not that it's appropriate to lump a load of people with issues into some idiotic new deal courses of all place.

We're talking about people like this who may be more than a little unhinged.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqyU2z-FJr8

It's a pity so many people used this thread to give some pofaced politicallly correct lecture,it's also a pity the same people aren't forced to be with a crowd of the people in the videoclip who I'm sure would be pleased to hear your views on the benefits system.

oldestrocker

nocareer wrote: »

Finally, a man who shares my views, based on reality. Not one of these lefties with their "anything goes" mentality. I'm with you oldestrocker!

Thanks

And yes the majority that I have come across over the years are either still doing time, or out living in a hostel somewhere, vegetating and reading !!!!!! mags!!

alwaysonthego_2

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