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  • victor2
    victor2 Posts: 8,374 Ambassador
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    It certainly isn't a theft, maybe criminal damage ?

    Presumably it had wheels on before the work was done and if they have been taken by somebody else who never owned them, what is it?

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  • Happychappy
    Happychappy Posts: 2,937 Forumite
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    iltisman wrote: »
    Its a bit cold for the police to come out of their warm station, they will tell you its a civil matter.

    Do you class a warm police station as outside on the three A road routes with a shovel and four wheel drive for 14 hours mainly on foot digging out and helping joepublictwats who decided to ignore road closed signs and got themselves stuck....ahhh, see what you mean, police will end up at fault....priceless....thanks for your advice, will stay in the nick tomorrow.
  • Look up on Google the word 'Lein'. This link will give you a clue ....

    http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/legal-advice/can-the-garage-retain-my-car.html

    You might be on a sticky wicket ... The garage did at least allow you to remove your car from their premises. They could have insisted on retaining it until you paid up.
  • Happychappy
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    victor2 wrote: »
    Presumably it had wheels on before the work was done and if they have been taken by somebody else who never owned them, what is it?

    Civil matter, look at the definition of theft and see if these circumstances meet the offence?

    The basic definition of theft is defined in S.1(1) of the Act.

    The Act states that

    A person shall be guilty of theft if he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it.

    So were the garage dishonest? did they have an honest belief that they had a right to take the wheels in order to further their claim.

    Is these an intention to PERMANENTLY DEPRIVE THE OTHER OF THEIR PROPERTY? if the garage never intended to keep the wheels, only to bring to the attention of the customer that a bill was still to be paid? is this theft?
  • victor2
    victor2 Posts: 8,374 Ambassador
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    Civil matter, look at the definition of theft and see if these circumstances meet the offence?

    The basic definition of theft is defined in S.1(1) of the Act.

    The Act states that

    A person shall be guilty of theft if he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it.

    So were the garage dishonest? did they have an honest belief that they had a right to take the wheels in order to further their claim.

    Is these an intention to PERMANENTLY DEPRIVE THE OTHER OF THEIR PROPERTY? if the garage never intended to keep the wheels, only to bring to the attention of the customer that a bill was still to be paid? is this theft?

    Fair point. Guess we shouldn't jump to conclusions on only hearing one side of the story!

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  • Happychappy
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    Look up on Google the word 'Lein'. This link will give you a clue ....

    http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/legal-advice/can-the-garage-retain-my-car.html

    You might be on a sticky wicket ... The garage did at least allow you to remove your car from their premises. They could have insisted on retaining it until you paid up.

    WR I think this is American law, albeit handed down from English Law, there is in fact a mechanics Lein which covers bills and disputes such as this.
  • andy111
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    It's all supposition until the full facts are known, which seems unlikely.

    However, It is likely that some further damage could be caused leaving the vehicle sitting on its hubs, and without shockers, depending on make and model.
  • anewman
    anewman Posts: 9,200 Forumite
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    edited 4 December 2010 at 2:08PM
    Ah, now you see the mistake here is you didn't get a car alarm specialist to fit a car alarm for free. Now if you did that when they tried to get the wheels off the alarm would have gone off.




    And on to being serious, I doubt the garage would have their actual name and address if they had set out to rip the garage off. At least not if they had some brains.
  • NickyBat
    NickyBat Posts: 857 Forumite
    OMG i'm shocked, wish he would come back and update
  • hartcjhart
    hartcjhart Posts: 9,463 Forumite
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    me thinks it is a wind up:T
    I :love: MOJACAR
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