Should this forum be renamed?

Really2

paul1964 wrote: »

Still can't see any irony.

I don't really object to people having a stance and sticking to it. It's those with a 100% faith in their predictions and a determination to belittle any dissenting voice that stifle debate on here.

Ok the irony is,

This thread is a decent example of what is wrong with this forum.

There are a number of prolific posters who have come to the collective decision that there is absolutely zero possibility of a sizable downward movement in house prices. This group of posters has (through months/years of exposure to this environment of confirmation bias) decided that their point of view is the only one of any merit.

As far as I can see their are others with other views on this post and no one has said 100% what will happen this year.

Ergo you are a person who confirms to your own stereotype, you only have issue with those with an opposing view. Your view on that is based on a confirmation basis, you are discounting their view has merit.
What do you do to counter act it, say it is only them who are steadfast and are sure with their predictions.

The thread is a good example of where one side always blames another, in reality it seems to be down to what colour glasses you wear to see who the perpetrators are generally they always tend to be from the side you dont agree with.

Graham_Devon

Really2 wrote: »

The thread is a good example of where one side always blames another

It is, you are correct. And I suggest you look at the thread stats to see the most active posters on this thread

Page 4 and stil arguing over which "side" is the bad "side"?

The first page has about 4 posts at least baiting me, but didn't respond, as it proved a point

Wheezy_2

No

Graham_Devon wrote: »

... baiting me, but didn't respond...

Well done Graham, but to have not responded, you shouldn't have responded.

paul1964_2

Really2 wrote: »

Ok the irony is,

As far as I can see their are others with other views on this post and no one has said 100% what will happen this year. Have another look at the first few posts.

Ergo you are a person who confirms to your own stereotype, you only have issue with those with an opposing view. Your view on that is based on a confirmation basis, you are discounting their view has merit. Not only do I think their predictions have merit, I think they will probably turn out to be correct - I just think other views should be tolerated.

What do you do to counter act it, say it is only them who are steadfast and are sure with their predictions. "They" do seem rather sure of their predictions - I accept I am very unsure of mine.

The thread is a good example of where one side always blames another, in reality it seems to be down to what colour glasses you wear to see who the perpetrators are generally they always tend to be from the side you dont agree with. Odd. As I say, I think it is likely that they will turn out to be right. I don't really have a "side", but if forced to pick one, would have to align myself with their predictions.

From your reply, I think you may have slightly misunderstood my posts.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

Really2 wrote: »

I don't think we are through it all at all, I will PM you something you may be interested in, it's good.

But I still believe we have an underlying demand and a shortage of housing (fairly shown in 2009).
If lending does not free up (which it clearly is freezing up again with deposits shooting back up etc, banks shutting up shop to see what happens in europe etc)
I really think a 2nd round of QE will come in soon and similar but smaller 2009 increase in late 2011/early 2012 tailing off to noiminal stagnation again.

Got the PM.

Interestingly China told its banks to start hoarding money.

Interesting times ahead

FATBALLZ

Thrugelmir wrote: »

I would go a step further. Merely "Debate the Economy"

As the direction of house prices for the time being will be at the mercy of wider economic events. Not influencing them as they have done for the past decade.....

Unfortunately that would lead to the house price obsessed oddballs like HPI Ghouls spamming the only remaining housing board that currently serves a useful purpose.

IveSeenTheLight

Yes

Percy1983 wrote: »

As I would agree that the YOY result does show stagnation, but right now the trend is downwards which should so that YOY figures start showing a decline too.

As I said locally the YOY is already -0.2% to which every month it declines now will increase that to a further negative.

I will say I mostly debate the social and moral issues of high house prices rather than trying to predict the future.

You say your area is -0.2% YoY.
So lets say, Dec, Jan, Feb and March all show -0.5%, making it roughly -2.3% YoY and then starts rising again a 0.5% per months for 6 months, so it +0.8% and then starts dropping again.

There will always be movement one way or the other, but if the above hypothesis were to be true, then that's stagnation for me

IveSeenTheLight

Yes

Graham_Devon wrote: »

The first page has about 4 posts at least baiting me, but didn't respond, as it proved a point

What was your post in post 11 if not a response?

The irony was that despite my not discussing you at all, you decided to try and bait me in that post.

Still chuckling by the way

Really2

Graham_Devon wrote: »

The first page has about 4 posts at least baiting me, but didn't respond, as it proved a point

TBF Graham the only time you don't respond is when you agree with it.:D

Really2

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

Got the PM.

Interestingly China told its banks to start hoarding money.

Interesting times ahead

Sorry tried adding you to my contact it list, It wont let me??