Need Some 'Real' Help Here! [Denied IS, CA & Crisis Loan]

GlasweJen

I'm still not convinced that there is a valid claim for income support, if the OPs father is in turkey looking after a sick relative who is not terminally ill (i.e. the mother) then there is no reason for the DWP to believe his trip is temporary.

In addition to this the original claim has been stopped and it would appear that there is a compliance issue with the amount of correspondance that the OP has implied he's had with the DWP.

Loopy_Girl

enabledebra wrote: »

My point was that the benefit rules had not been followed and that there is entitlement to Income Support.

Can I ask again what someone else asked which is if lone parents are not allowed to stay on IS after child is aged 7, why would the OP's Mother be able to being that her child is 9?

enabledebra

GlasweJen wrote: »

I'm still not convinced that there is a valid claim for income support, if the OPs father is in turkey looking after a sick relative who is not terminally ill (i.e. the mother) then there is no reason for the DWP to believe his trip is temporary.


In addition to this the original claim has been stopped and it would appear that there is a compliance issue with the amount of correspondance that the OP has implied he's had with the DWP.

Well that will depend on the Secretary of State's assessment of the circumstances. I would expect the father is looking for a solution to the problem and given that his home is in the UK I would expect a highly appropriate route would be to apply to the Home Office for his mother to come to the UK to be with her remaining living family to be cared for.

'Compliance' is a Tax Credit consideration. In Social Security law An issue with one person's claim does not prohibit a new claim from a another person, even from within the same household, although the facts surrounding the 2 claims would be examined as part of the decision making process.

enabledebra

Loopy_Girl wrote: »

Can I ask again what someone else asked which is if lone parents are not allowed to stay on IS after child is aged 7, why would the OP's Mother be able to being that her child is 9?

Because IS regs define categories of 'prescribed persons' regs were put in place to amend the age limits for lone parent claims but these regs don't affect other categories and there were no similar regs for the category identified.

GlasweJen

enabledebra wrote: »

Well that will depend on the Secretary of State's assessment of the circumstances. And are you the secretary of state? The OP has already spent a considerable amount of time corresponding with the DWP, he has been told his family are not eligable for income support - that is not advice he received from the forum but direct instruction from the DWP.

I would expect the father is looking for a solution to the problem and given that his home is in the UK I would expect a highly appropriate route would be to apply to the Home Office for his mother to come to the UK to be with her remaining living family to be cared for. The OP has made no mention of any plans to remove the mother from her native country, in fact the father does not seem to have any plans at all and cannot be contacted.

'Compliance' is a Tax Credit consideration. I am aware of that but I am keeping the terminology similar to that already used on the thread because the OP seems to be having problems understanding basic instructions as it is (such as apply for child tax credits).

In Social Security law An issue with one person's claim does not prohibit a new claim from a another person, even from within the same household, although the facts surrounding the 2 claims would be examined as part of the decision making process.
I am aware of that but we cannot assess what is going on with the claim as even the OP doesn't seem to know.

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enabledebra

GlasweJen wrote: »

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I think, then, we are actually in agreement. Dependent on circumstances which we don't have full knowledge of the mother may be entitled to Income Support (and to my mind that's quite likely-but as I'm not the secretary of State I have noted the need to challenge the decision/make a claim rather than to expect payment to follow on the basis of my post.)

welshmoneylover

OP, is there an update for us?

tomitma

enabledebra wrote: »

Well that will depend on the Secretary of State's assessment of the circumstances. I would expect the father is looking for a solution to the problem and given that his home is in the UK I would expect a highly appropriate route would be to apply to the Home Office for his mother to come to the UK to be with her remaining living family to be cared for.



Well according to the OP who started this posting, his Father doesn't know anything about what is going on are you suggesting that another branch of the family comes to the UK to be supported on benefits, as the father doesn't work, benefits will be the only income they will get, and I cant see the grandmother learning English, if the daughter hasn't in 20 years.

Loopy_Girl

enabledebra wrote: »

Because IS regs define categories of 'prescribed persons' regs were put in place to amend the age limits for lone parent claims but these regs don't affect other categories and there were no similar regs for the category identified.

Wow...that's a bit of a kick in the teeth for the lone parent going out to work and walking past the house of the OP Mother all cosy in her house - and can't speak a word of English. Although it always amazes me that people who can't 'speak' English always manage to get a form filled in and understand when and how much money they will get paid.

Someone mentioned xenophobia earlier - it's regs like this that flame the fire.

However, am aware that this isn't the forum for it so I shall retreat;)