No Access to Home without Several Speed Humps

johnson293

Strider590 wrote: »

Speeding is not the major issue...... Stop making our Police hide behind wheelie bins with radar guns and get them out in patrol cars looking for real dangerous drivers!

In built up areas, it could be argued (and has been) that Speeders are real dangerous drivers.

Strider590 wrote: »

Oh and start pulling slow drivers off the roads, they do nothing but deliberately enrage other drivers!

So someone driving under the speed limit should be taken off the roads, because they stop people from driving at (or even over) the speed limit, and thus 'enrage' them? Who's problem is that then??

Strider590 wrote: »

In addition, if I drive to Birmingham along one particular A road, the speed limit in just 30miles changes as follows.... 30, 40, 30, 50, NSL, 50, NSL, 40, 50, 30, 40, 30, 40, 30 and after each change there's a barely visable speed camera!
Some of the limits I can see are correctly applied, but most im convinced are there just to catch people out.... Especially those who don't know the road very well

But those speed limit changes will be signposted, so people can reduce their speed accordingly in good time - Its not like they are changing the limit just to catch people out. If people cannot adapt their speed according to the changing road conditions and/or speed limits, should they really be driving at all?

Strider590

johnson293 wrote: »

So someone driving under the speed limit should be taken off the roads, because they stop people from driving at (or even over) the speed limit, and thus 'enrage' them? Who's problem is that then??

If North Korea fly an unarmed "satellite" missile over US airspace and it gets shot down by a squadron of F22 Raptor's, closely followed by a nuclear missile winging its way to Korea..... Who's fault is that?

Driving slowly and not minimising the "enraging" effect your having on other road users is nothing short of "Passive Aggression".
Your inviting people to drive in a manner which they would not normally consider, you are actively, deliberately and in a calculated manner, creating aggression and tension on the roads!

johnson293

Strider590 wrote: »

If North Korea fly an unarmed "satellite" missile over US airspace and it gets shot down by a squadron of F22 Raptor's who's fault is that?

Driving slowly and not minimising the "enraging" effect your having on other road users is nothing short of "Passive Aggression".
Your inviting people to drive in a manner which they would not normally consider, you are actually creating aggression and tension on the roads!

Ha ha - is that an attempt at a justification for road rage. :rotfl:

Rossy.

Strider590 wrote: »

If North Korea fly an unarmed "satellite" missile over US airspace and it gets shot down by a squadron of F22 Raptor's, closely followed by a nuclear missile winging its way to Korea..... Who's fault is that?

Driving slowly and not minimising the "enraging" effect your having on other road users is nothing short of "Passive Aggression".
Your inviting people to drive in a manner which they would not normally consider, you are actively, deliberately and in a calculated manner, creating aggression and tension on the roads!

Eh ?

What has a satelite and a nuclear missile got to do with slow drivers on our roads?

Sure it's frustrating, but it's the people over taking the slow driver that actually cause the accident risk to climb not the slower driver.

Lum

mikey72 wrote: »

Now that I can't see a problem with.
I can see, so 60 is fine. If other drivers can't move over, they can't have seen me, so if they're not observant enough it's not my fault, and I've always got the aribags.

There's always a few poor drivers that spoil the fun of the rest.

Uhh.

Single track lane barely wider than a van, hell there are some sections where both my Mondeo's mirrors are scraping the hedges simultaneously, oh and the height of the hedge is about the height of a Transit van's roof. And all in a nice 60 limit.

You can't see, even in a transit van. The biggest offenders are in car derived vans anyway.

optimus_primera

Maybe,just maybe,if we all drove with regard to the conditions,and treated evetyone with a bit of repsect now and then,we wouldn't have all these issues?
I am not just talking about those who 'speed', what about Mr and Mrs sunday driver who hold up the A16 at 35 mph for miles and miles? tractor drivers who never pull over,although they have a 16 mile queue behind them.
But what i really really hate, are people who blame eveything on the motorist.
Pedestrians and cyclists need to shoulder their responsibilities as well.
Teach childern at an early age not to run out into the rd,put kids thru cycling proficiency classes.
On crossings,pedestrians to learn that when the light on the rd goes green,the cars will start moving,and not to try to push their luck and run across.
And don't get me started on horse riders.

mikey72

Lum wrote: »

Uhh.

Single track lane barely wider than a van, hell there are some sections where both my Mondeo's mirrors are scraping the hedges simultaneously, oh and the height of the hedge is about the height of a Transit van's roof. And all in a nice 60 limit.

You can't see, even in a transit van. The biggest offenders are in car derived vans anyway.

If no one has hit you, they obviously can drive at that speed. If you are worried, you don't need to use the road. Just don't needlessly slow down the rest of us.

almillar

Rossy - serjoe did in post 74 - My point was one size doesn't fit all.
Strider590 makes a great point in post 98. People in these cars are just as entitled to use ALL the roads as anyone else, but are deliberately stopped from doing so. How is that fair? You should NOT have to choose your car based on whether it can get over a speed bump or not!
Much as I hate to say it, speed cameras are a better solution.
EVERYONE would be able to drive down the road at a constant 30, that's fair isn't it?
And stop trotting out this speed kills crap. Inappropriate speed kills. Motorways are both the fastest and safest roads in the UK. Let's have more of them and raise speed limits.
You take a risk in life every time you walk out your front door. If children were kept inside all the time and cars were banned would that be a good thing?

johnson293

mikey72 wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/user/Strider9655

You have to bookmark it, it's brilliant.

Ha Ha, cheers for that!! :rotfl:

Also been looking through this thread.

I've been driving for 20 years now (passed my test at 17), and have been involved in two accidents in all that time - once my fault, the other time someone drove into my rear end.

However, at no time in my 20 years of driving, have I felt the need to have a camera installed in my car, due to "the standards of driving in this country".

mikey72

Maybe this is the motoring ideal then
No accidents, so it must work for them, (well no accidents in the minute shown anyway)
Spot the pedestrian at 18 seconds in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n_mgFA47WQ&feature=related