Luton Airport ANPR 'fines'

taffy056

smjxm09 wrote: »

So the people here were not dropping or picking up passengers on the roundabout or in the bus lane which is also on the roundabout. I think you will find that there is photographic evidence to say otherwise. Would you stop on your local town centre roundabout to pick up passengers? Don't think so


Whether these people pay the fine or not it will have the desired effect as they won’t be doing it again.

We are not here to make judgements but are here to offer advice, off course its irresponsible to do that on a roundabout, most of us here probably have never been to Luton Airport so its difficult to get the lay of the land.

But again no judgements on the people asking advice, the concenous across many forums is to ignore PPC invoices, and that is it no judgement just ignore these cowboys and their empty threats and invoices.

esmerobbo

smjxm09 wrote: »

So the people here were not dropping or picking up passengers on the roundabout or in the bus lane which is also on the roundabout. I think you will find that there is photographic evidence to say otherwise. Would you stop on your local town centre roundabout to pick up passengers? Don't think so


Whether these people pay the fine or not it will have the desired effect as they won’t be doing it again.

Totally agree stopping on a roundabout to drop somebody off deserves a penalty. However a Private company has no power to issue penalties.
Their not issuing for safety reasons only for profit.

If safety is the issue there are ways to stop them doing it. Manchester have a Plastic Barrier system, stopping you off loading except were your allowed too. This also adds to security to avoid a Glasgow incident.

smjxm09

If safety is the issue there are ways to stop them doing it. Manchester have a Plastic Barrier system, stopping you off loading except were your allowed too. This also adds to security to avoid a Glasgow incident.

I’m no fan of Luton Airport but they have tried everything to stop passengers being picked up and dropped off on the roundabout including ringing the roundabout in 4ft high barriers to stop passengers reaching the pavement but they just walk in the road until they reach the bus station where there are gaps in the barriers by the bus stops.

From the airport website:

Introduction of Road Safety Enforcement

An £80 penalty charge has been introduced at London Luton Airport for drivers who stop their vehicles to drop off or pick up passengers on the approach roads, roundabout, or bus lane leading up to the Airport terminal.
The penalty charge will be reduced to £40 if paid within 14 days. This charge will not benefit the Airport financially. It is intended to stop the current practice of drivers picking up or setting down passengers in unauthorised areas, which poses a risk both to the safety of passengers and that of other road users, as well as causing congestion and disruption to traffic. The penalty charge will be strictly enforced with mobile CCTV cameras.

roddydogs

All that to avoid £1? with heavy cases? R U serious.

taffy056

smjxm09 wrote: »

Introduction of Road Safety Enforcement

An £80 penalty charge has been introduced at London Luton Airport for drivers who stop their vehicles to drop off or pick up passengers on the approach roads, roundabout, or bus lane leading up to the Airport terminal.
The penalty charge will be reduced to £40 if paid within 14 days. This charge will not benefit the Airport financially. It is intended to stop the current practice of drivers picking up or setting down passengers in unauthorised areas, which poses a risk both to the safety of passengers and that of other road users, as well as causing congestion and disruption to traffic. The penalty charge will be strictly enforced with mobile CCTV cameras.

Can I just say that the luton airport website is stating a penalty charge, that is ILLEGAL they cannot issue penalties but only invoices, they are in fact misleading people in saying they have an authority they don't actually possess, nor does the PPC involved!

I can understand the reasoning, but they are not taking this seriously otherwise people wouldn't do it, they have gone to the cheap option of passing the buck, they need more proactive ways to combat this, one would be to employ people to ensure it doesn't happen, they do it at cardiff airport, so there are no excuses, this is just a money making exercise and they are in profit with this

Coupon-mad

smjxm09 wrote: »

I’m no fan of Luton Airport but they have tried everything to stop passengers being picked up and dropped off on the roundabout including ringing the roundabout in 4ft high barriers to stop passengers reaching the pavement but they just walk in the road until they reach the bus station where there are gaps in the barriers by the bus stops.

From the airport website:

Introduction of Road Safety Enforcement

An £80 penalty charge has been introduced at London Luton Airport for drivers who stop their vehicles to drop off or pick up passengers on the approach roads, roundabout, or bus lane leading up to the Airport terminal.
The penalty charge will be reduced to £40 if paid within 14 days. This charge will not benefit the Airport financially. It is intended to stop the current practice of drivers picking up or setting down passengers in unauthorised areas, which poses a risk both to the safety of passengers and that of other road users, as well as causing congestion and disruption to traffic. The penalty charge will be strictly enforced with mobile CCTV cameras.

You called it a 'fine' in several posts, it's NOT a fine and there's no reason to pay it at all. We have to set the record straight here because you keep saying people should pay a bogus ticket - and you aren't a newbie MSEer either! Sorry but although your defence of this 'parking charge notice' regime is for the right reasons I am sure, that does NOT make it a legit fine. No-one should be advising on MSE to pay a fake PCN!

Luton Airport call it a Penalty Charge - it's not allowed to be called a 'penalty' either.

You need to read up on the cowboy PPC industry otherwise one day you will think you've been fined when you haven't. No private company or individual can issue a fine or penalty.

PPC fake parking tickets are like phishing emails, only on paper. Useful as firelighters or bog roll, that's all, same goes for the rubbish threatograms that they send when you ignore their fake ticket.

Read the stickies, watch the Watchdog link in one of Crabman's main two sticky threads:

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=163

Then you'll know why we are so vociferous against anyone telling victims to pay this !!!!!!.

lammas

smjxm09 wrote: »

The reason drivers are getting fined at Luton airport is because they are stopping on a roundabout to either pick up or drop off passengers when the drop off area is only 30m away.

I have seen with my own eyes families getting out and going to the boot to get their luggage and nothing can get past while they say their goodbyes. This is an incredibly stupid thing to do. Not only is it dangerous but it holds up traffic. I have no sympathy so pay up as there are enough warning signs.

The signage at Luton was not clear and we did not actually stop to let anyone in or get out. We only strayed briefly into bus lane before we noticed the drop off zone which we then went into.

taffy056

lammas wrote: »

The signage at Luton was not clear and we did not actually stop to let anyone in or get out. We only strayed briefly into bus lane before we noticed the drop off zone which we then went into.

Which only goes to show that this is about revenue first and foremost, honestly every PPC is the same, wherever they go they cause the problems for the most part, they go into a retail centre and its the legitimate shoppers who get caught out, the ones abusing car parks know they don't have to pay, that is why they park there!

As I mentioned above, someone came here in the last few weeks and said they were booked in a traffic jam at luton airport, they have taken the cheap option to try and sort out a problem that could be sorted with having people on the ground there.

NFH

smjxm09 wrote: »

I’m no fan of Luton Airport but they have tried everything to stop passengers being picked up and dropped off on the roundabout

No, they haven't. They should provide a freely accessible drop-off area in front of the terminal building, just like all other London airports do. Luton Airport have brought this problem on themselves by unreasonably implementing a drop-off charge of £1, which many visitors to the airport will do everything possible to avoid, just out of principle.

smjxm09

To be honest the problem was there before the £1 charge was introduced as it is a 1 minute walk from the drop off area and only 30 seconds from the roundabout.

Again I am not a defender of the airport but before the £1 charge was introduced drivers would park up in the drop off area while they waited for their passengers. This resulted in horrendous traffic jams as other cars could not park against the pavement and were forced to block the exit lane to load and unload.

The airport has used traffic wardens in the past as a deterrent but they never seemed to issue many tickets as the drivers were sitting in their cars and motorists just used to ignore them if the wardens were in another part of the drop off area. At least now the drop off area has free flowing traffic.