Please help with UKCPS and Court Proceedings LTD

taffy056

Which begs the question how can they operate without a CCA licence ? Is there someone else who holds one there ?

As for UKCPS , if the accounts are 4 months late, how long will the revenue wait until they start taking steps to recover our taxes from them ? And in regards to ties to organisations and charities, Mobilise has an association to a company that could be classed as tax evaders, bet they must be proud of that !

HO87

taffy056 wrote: »

Which begs the question how can they operate without a CCA licence ? Is there someone else who holds one there ?

There is a clear connection between UKCPS and Court Proceedings Ltd in that they share a common officer/director/shareholder in the shape of Mr Deegan. If they are part of the same "group" then CPL would not require a CCA licence to collect UKCPS's debts.

However, as I have posted elsewhere, running a parallel debt collection business and failing to make the connection between the entities clear to customers/debtors may be a risky strategy as OPC recently discovered at Wolverhampton Magistrates Court. Remember the connection between OPC and Windsor-Smythe?

CPL did file an application for a CCA licence in August 2010 but this was closed by the OFT ("made of no effect") on 8 March 2011. Such withdrawals most commonly occur when applications are incomplete and further information is not forthcoming. That is not to say that this is the only reason for such action being taken but no explanation is provided in the register.

taffy056 wrote: »

As for UKCPS , if the accounts are 4 months late, how long will the revenue wait until they start taking steps to recover our taxes from them ? And in regards to ties to organisations and charities, Mobilise has an association to a company that could be classed as tax evaders, bet they must be proud of that !

HMRC are not necessarily the issue here. UKCPS may already have completed accounts for tax purposes but what they have not done is to file them at Companies House meaning that this is a Companies Act issue rather than a tax issue. CH do not appear that consistent in taking action in respect of failure to file accounts but it is difficult to know what is going on behind the scenes. That being said, the entire "Striking Off" process takes 6 months during which the company can apply for the process to be stayed and CH usually commence the process after 6-9 months. A 4 month overshoot is not that unusual.
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AlexisV

With so many companies defaulting on tax over the last 3 years, HMRC are unconcerned with chasing where limited liability exists nowadays.

If you owe tax they'll now just send a few letters and strike the company off when they get round to it.

esmerobbo

If anyone wishes to see the Debenture!

ftp://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/image/c0/3e/cc/22/12/e0/d6/0c/9c/b2/e0/2b/22/e4/aa/0a/blREX+0L0171-26448_3-06347803.pdf

AlexisV

I get a 403.

trisontana

Works for me OK

Coblcris

I do not, I get the document.
It is with UKCPS Limited not with Court Proceedings ltd. Two different legal entities as denoted by their different company numbers.

An interesting document nevertheless.

Driver8

PRIVATE PARKING TICKETS - DON'T PAY!
IT IS NOT A FINE! YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING ILLEGAL!

This is an information page for the thousands of people who receive "tickets" from private companies in the UK ever day at supermarkets, retail parks, and in any other privately-owned carpark.

We are NOT encouraging anybody to openly flout parking restrictions on private land, or to refuse to pay reasonable charges for parking. Landowners have a right to make reasonable charges for the use of their land.

For advice specific to your case, you should visit the forums at http://forums.pepipoo.com or http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/parking-traffic-offences.

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=163

1. What you should know about these companies

It is important to remember that private parking companies (or PPCs as they are often called) have NO OFFICIAL POWERS - that's right, none at all! They give out their "tickets" on the basis that you have seen the signs in their car park and that you have therefore agreed to a contract obliging you to pay a certain sum of money.


2. What happens to people who don't pay?

In 99.9% of cases, absolutely NOTHING! The company pays the DVLA £2.50 to get your address, and then sends lots of threatening letters. In the main, these letters can be safely IGNORED. The only way the company can actually force you to pay is by taking you to the small claims court, which costs them even more money. And they are by no means guaranteed to win! And they practically never do.

The two main reasons for this (among others) are the following:

- Only the person DRIVING the car could ever have agreed to any such parking contract. The company can only get the Registered Keeper's address from the DVLA: you don't have to tell them who was driving.

-Many of these charges are so extortionately high that they constitute a penalty, which is unenforceable in a consumer contract.


3. Can they affect my credit rating?

NO! The only way your credit rating could be affected by ignoring private parking companies is if you were taken to court, lost, and then still refused to pay. But they will not take you to court.


IN SHORT

The vast majority of the time, you can safely IGNORE tickets from private parking companies, they are not official fines.

The vast majority of the time, you can safely IGNORE the threatening letters, including those from debt collection agencies.

You DO NOT have to pay a penny of your hard-earned money to these companies. Remember that the chances of being taken to court are very slim indeed.

DO NOT IGNORE COURT PAPERS!
If you receive real court papers from a private parking company (very rare) then you should go to http://forums.pepipoo.com or http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/parking-traffic-offences for help defending the claim. Do not be afraid to sign up and ask questions regarding any paperwork you are not sure about.



Don’t believe the above? Watch a solicitor on Watchdog advising you what to do with the scam invoices.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAIcdi9niHA

THEY ARE NOT FINES

Only the Police, Courts or Council’s can fine you. NOT a private company, please remember that.

PaulyQ

hi all, first timer....

received a parking notice charge today, usual thing £100 or £60 discounted if paid promptly. Parked in a disabled bay for 5 mins whilst taking an elderly relative into store.

Ticket issued does not give a "Reason for Issue"

1) is the ticket/invoice even legal?

2) Do I still do nothing??

thanks

Inflatable_Armadillo

PaulyQ wrote: »

hi all, first timer....

received a parking notice charge today, usual thing £100 or £60 discounted if paid promptly. Parked in a disabled bay for 5 mins whilst taking an elderly relative into store.

Ticket issued does not give a "Reason for Issue"

1) is the ticket/invoice even legal?

2) Do I still do nothing??

thanks

It is an invoice not a ticket, as such the invoice can say what it likes but if you deny the debt, then they have to stand up in a court and prove you owe them the money... they can't do this in nearly all cases.

You just ignore them and then they will go away.

So yes, do nothing and ignore the letter chain that will follow.