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give_them_FA

You are right. A landowner can apply whatever rules he likes.

That does not, of course, mean that there is any avenue for enforcement of those rules where he attempts to levy an unlawful penalty for alleged breach.

The idea that you could enforce entirely unreasonable conditions went out with Shylock in The Merchant of Venice.

give_them_FA

wik79 wrote: »

Is it against the rules to divulge?!

It was someone you yourself have had quite a few goes at!

No, it is not against the rules. We need to know who the "wolf in sheep's clothing" is so that we can put others on their guard in case they are less canny than yourself.

give_them_FA

UTCCR 1999 covers the case of people being fleeced by onesided contracts.

trisontana

If that motorist is willing to pay that £50, what mechanism (i.e a P&D machine) is put in place in the actual car-park to pay that fee then and there?

Kite2010

ppeterson1750 wrote: »

A landowner can apply whatever rules he wants to a vehicle parking on it.
I can erect a sign to state free parking to anyone who is using my store whilst using it only.
I can also offer them the opportunity to use my car park without using my store, for which I offer this parking at £50 per set 8hr period (as an example).
They will by their actions be deemed to have accepted my offer by their actions.

Apart from when a car-park is made up for say a supermarket, but a condition in the planning permission states that the car-park must be available for use of the local shops (say for example the supermarket was built on an old council car-park), then you can invoice people for leaving site...

...but then you will run the risk of the council fining you for breaching planning conditions, and unlike your invoices these fines are real

Kite2010

ppeterson1750 wrote: »

The mechanism is in most cases by the issue of a parking charge or invoice attached to the vehicle or served by post and is payable within 14days (for example).
If the signage states this is the mechanism for charging then by leaving the vehicle that charge is accepted.

Ok, I will park in your phantom car-park and I will see you in court for your £50

Kite2010

Greggs closed again Perky?
Dating site blocked you again?

Kite2010

ppeterson1750 wrote: »

for a second time, nothing constructive just a stupid and pointless comment.

For my original post that councils can fine businesses for breaching parking conditions:
newsfrombrighton.co.uk/brighton-culture/shopping/aldi-fined-for-failing-to-offer-free-parking-in-portslade/

Sadly it was only £600 + £1200 in costs.

Stephen_Leak

But, is £50 for 8 hours parking "reasonable"?

Mind you, at £6.25 per hour, the example does compare favourably with the worst example I could readily find of £43 for 6 hours, ie. £7.18 per hour.

However, if I drove into a car park and saw a car parking sign with that high a charge on it, I don't think I'd bother to read the rest of the sign and would drive out again.

This might explain why I can't recall seeing a sign like this in a supermarket or retail park.

give_them_FA

I would say that PP (whatever PPC he may represent) has given us the perfect illustration of why those companies are rightly described as parasites.

Anyone who may (or may not) have committed some minor technical indiscretion in a retailer's car park, and been made (by threat and coercion) to pay money to the PPC as a result, will NEVER again visit that car park or that retailer.

So, as against an actual loss of zero which was occasioned by the parking, the retailer loses the custom of that person (and probably their friends and family too) for ever.

The only one that gains- is of course the parking company. They don't give one that the retailer they duped into "managing" their car park loses out, so long as they gain.

That is what it is all about. They serve only themselves in reality. And all the pseudo-legalbabble that the above gentleman wishes to spout will not change that truth- only reinforce it.