my son wants to get custody for his son

tweetie_pie_3

Loopy_Girl wrote: »

Yes, that's exactly what I would expect from a concerned parent. The nurses would have no right not to let him see his Son as he has PPR.

Actually if my son went up to the hospital kicking and screaming that in itself is showing a violent nature so how does that look as a parent as the mum has an anger problem and that is 1 of the reasons they are worried about baby being in her care
I was the 1 to stop him and i personally think i advised him correctly although he wasnt happy because he wanted to see his son

tweetie_pie_3

Ms_Chocaholic wrote: »

You are making out that your son is some angel - came home when he was asked, was never drunk oh he never got into any bother at all

He is far from an angel but we have set rules and he has always come home when said
According to grandmother there are no teenagers that go to her house only 1 or 2 as they are mormans and dont allow that
but neighbours/police/others know different and i have never said my son wasnt 1 of those teenagers as his friends with her brother but he hasnt come home drunk no trouble with police or violence

gizmo111

My son read it and didnt understand it so passed it to solicitor who explained its basically mums final chance that is y its only her invited and said its good he hasnt got one cos that means they are giving u the go ahead to apply for residency

This is illegal - at a Legal Planning Meeting both parents with PR have to be informed and represented. They cannot have 2 things running at the same time - private and public law and cannot give your son the go ahead for anything. Is this solicitor experienced in public law care proceedings?
Where does the childrens centre come into it?

pinknfluffy0

tweetie_pie wrote: »

Actually if my son went up to the hospital kicking and screaming that in itself is showing a violent nature so how does that look as a parent as the mum has an anger problem and that is 1 of the reasons they are worried about baby being in her care
I was the 1 to stop him and i personally think i advised him correctly although he wasnt happy because he wanted to see his son

Why couldnt he have gone nicely and calmly?

Loopy_Girl

pinknfluffy0 wrote: »

Why couldnt he have gone nicely and calmly?

Exactly my thoughts. Even if the nurses wouldn't have allowed him in as it was late then it would have looked good and defo went in his favour that he made the effort to see him 'spesh since the Mum wasn't there.

Nurses cannot tell you if you can and cannot see someone particulalry if you are a parent.

There was no need for a scene at all just a quiet word asking to see him and if they refused as it was late (as they can't say no to him just becasue the Mother has said - main carer or not) then to thank them and tell them he would be up first thing.

It's all moot points now of course but if you have SS watching you're every move then I would have thought that every opportunity to show you are the better parent should be grabbed.

Tweetie, how is baby this morning? Did he have a settled night?

blue_monkey_2

pinknfluffy0 wrote: »

Why couldnt he have gone nicely and calmly?

Because he had already been told to stay away - if he had turned up they would have said he was causing trouble. And if the grandmother had kicked off in a ward full of babies? You know, the grandmother who has a 30 year history of violence.....

Some of you clearly have no idea what it is like to be frightened of someone who has violent and aggressive tendancies - and yes, even when a child is involved it makes you frightened of what might happen when you get there so you have to do what you have to do to keep the peace - even if you do not want to do that.

And unless you have been in that situation yourself you cannot even for one minute, judge those feelings and belittle them and put them down as you all are right now. You spend most of your time walking in eggshells doing as you are told, when you are asked, even if you do not want to do it - because you are scared of what might happen to you and those around you. If you have not been in that situation you'll think it sounds ridiculous but I have and I ended up on medication, could not sleep, eat, felt sick when the phone or door went. it really is very hard so please do not belittle the feelings, it does not make you a weaker person for having those feelings.

pinknfluffy0

blue_monkey wrote: »

Because he had already been told to stay away - if he had turned up they would have said he was causing trouble. And if the grandmother had kicked off in a ward full of babies? You know, the grandmother who has a 30 year history of violence.....

Some of you clearly have no idea what it is like to be frightened of someone who has violent and aggressive tendancies - and yes, even when a child is involved it makes you frightened of what might happen when you get there so you have to do what you have to do to keep the peace - even if you do not want to do that.

And unless you have been in that situation yourself you cannot even for one minute, judge those feelings and belittle them and put them down.

I have been in a situation of being that scared of someone, but I also have children and could not have staid away from the hospital if they were there.

blue_monkey_2

pinknfluffy0 wrote: »

I have been in a situation of being that scared of someone, but I also have children and could not have staid away from the hospital if they were there.

So have I an yes, I would have - I guess that makes me weaker than you then. That someone also set my house on fire while I slept for 'not doing as I was told'. 20 years on I still do not sleep properly - and I still live in hiding despite being remarried and having children. It affect some people in ways more than others so do not belittle those feelings if you have been in that situation. We are obviously not all as strong as you - does that make us bad parents?

nottslass_2

[QUOTE=blue_monkey;35658697]Because he had already been told to stay away - if he had turned up they would have said he was causing trouble. And if the grandmother had kicked off in a ward full of babies? You know, the grandmother who has a 30 year history of violence.....

Some of you clearly have no idea what it is like to be frightened of someone who has violent and aggressive tendancies - and yes, even when a child is involved it makes you frightened of what might happen when you get there so you have to do what you have to do to keep the peace - even if you do not want to do that.

And unless you have been in that situation yourself you cannot even for one minute, judge those feelings and belittle them and put them down as you all are right now. You spend most of your time walking in eggshells doing as you are told, when you are asked, even if you do not want to do it - because you are scared of what might happen to you and those around you. If you have not been in that situation you'll think it sounds ridiculous but I have and I ended up on medication, could not sleep, eat, felt sick when the phone or door went. it really is very hard so please do not belittle the feelings, it does not make you a weaker person for having those feelings.[/QUOTE]

As the Babies mother wasn't there, then who gave consent for any treatment ? Someone with PR has to give consent before any treatment.



If the grandmother had of become violent then the hospital are quite used to dealing with such situations and called security. If I remember correctly,it was the nurses who told the OP to stay away "because the grandmother said so" - sorry don't believe it for one minute they would have done on the say so of the grandmother.

How come the grandmother was sending Text messages re the baby and in fact later even sent a message saying that the OP's son could have the baby to stay overnight,yet at the same time apparently "banned" them from going to the hospital - doesn't add up to me (Again)

heretolearn_2

Maybe it would be best all round for the baby to be taken into care. Perhaps as neither of them is really equipped to raise a child, they could let the baby go for adoption. There are so many couples waiting for a baby that it could happen quite quickly, and this baby could have a secure future without all this drama and aggro in his life and an unstable family (even if your son gets residency, the other family are still going to be effecting the babe).