my son wants to get custody for his son

nottslass_2

Frosti wrote: »

Just a note to the posters who have been critical of this baby's Dad for not high-tailing it over to the hospital when he heard his baby had been admitted..

Night-staff on most NHS hospital wards are at or below minimum numbers. They do not have all the family details, and are only concerned with their patients' medical problems. Rightly, the door to the paediatric ward will be locked at night - none of those sick babies needs the disturbance of upset people claiming to be family creating a fuss and taking the attention of the few nurses away from them.

The lad did right by 'phoning, and accepting the reassurances of the nurse he spoke to.

I am glad babe is out of hospital and on the mend now.

Oh for goodness sake,he's the babies father,not his geat uncle twice removed......................

Actually concidering the fact that the mother wasn't actually there I would have thought they would have welcomed him with open arms - after all they would have needed someone with PR to consent to treatment.

Childrens wards have 24 hour access for parents anyway.

Loopy_Girl

To be honest I'm not sure what he was doing in hosp at all...it's very common for a bit of a reaction to the jabs and dare I say it, a dose of Calpol does the trick;)

Loopy_Girl

nottslass wrote: »

Childrens wards have 24 hour access for parents anyway.

God I am glad someone else has said it!!! Of course they bloody do and yes, the door is locked but that's to keep the weirdo's out - not the frikkin parents.

Frosti

tweetie_pie wrote: »

just rang babies mum is not at hospital other grandmother is but asleep so as nurse can not tell me much due to data protection i just asked if he was ok and she errrm yh so now we are worrying more i even said my son is here can u tell him but no

Ok, my mistake; it was OP who 'phoned. Thinking about it, if any of my boys had been daft enough to get himself into the situation this young man is in, I would have made the call myself as well; having much greater life-experience, knowing how to communicate by 'phone, and not panicking.. Tbh, I don't think it's important who in the household made the call.
The nurse told OP that the baby was accompanied by his other grandmother and was ok - doubtless her reluctance to give much detail was due to having no real idea who was calling.
The night staff would have no access to hospital social workers or any of the history, so really weren't in a position to let in someone who said he was a parent - especially as the child already had an adult staying with him.
Yes, in theory parents can come and go as they wish on childrens' wards. I know, I did it for years. But anyone who has a child in hospital must realise that the less disturbance there is at night the better it is for all the children - anyone ringing for the door to be opened late at night knows one of the few nurses will have to leave her charges to let them in, or risk all the babes being woken by the bell (or worse if a vital alarm is missed).

Well, the OP and her son had a few hours of not being certain what exactly was happening with the baby - but they'd been told he was ok and knew he was safe in hospital.. Sorry, but I still think they did the right thing by waiting until the morning to get their questions answered.

Having read through the meanderings on this thread I cannot help but wonder if the whole thing is an unnecessary struggle for both sides of this poor babe's birth family. Why are people so against considering adoption these days? When you consider what prospective adoptive parents have to go through to prove they can provide a wonderful home for a child, anyone struggling in OP's position must surely wonder if the child's best interests would be served by letting him go to a family where she can be certain he is both desperately wanted and long-awaited.

Frosti

Loopy_Girl wrote: »

To be honest I'm not sure what he was doing in hosp at all...it's very common for a bit of a reaction to the jabs and dare I say it, a dose of Calpol does the trick;)

Worst case scenario; baby dies. Uncommon but it happens. As the child was showing an adverse reaction, the doctors would have wanted to keep an eye on him in case his symptoms worsened - he might have required respiratory aid during the night.
If he'd gone home, help would not have arrived in time.

OP - make sure whoever is responsible gets advice from the paediatrician before babe has any more inoculations. They can be given later, individually, or possibly not at all if there is a family history of severe reactions (ie. another babe in the family died after the jabs).

Loopy - have you got any children?

nottslass_2

Frosti wrote: »

Ok, my mistake; it was OP who 'phoned. Thinking about it, if any of my boys had been daft enough to get himself into the situation this young man is in, I would have made the call myself as well; having much greater life-experience, knowing how to communicate by 'phone, and not panicking.. Tbh, I don't think it's important who in the household made the call.
The nurse told OP that the baby was accompanied by his other grandmother and was ok - doubtless her reluctance to give much detail was due to having no real idea who was calling.
The night staff would have no access to hospital social workers or any of the history, so really weren't in a position to let in someone who said he was a parent - especially as the child already had an adult staying with him.
Yes, in theory parents can come and go as they wish on childrens' wards. I know, I did it for years. But anyone who has a child in hospital must realise that the less disturbance there is at night the better it is for all the children - anyone ringing for the door to be opened late at night knows one of the few nurses will have to leave her charges to let them in, or risk all the babes being woken by the bell (or worse if a vital alarm is missed).

Well, the OP and her son had a few hours of not being certain what exactly was happening with the baby - but they'd been told he was ok and knew he was safe in hospital.. Sorry, but I still think they did the right thing by waiting until the morning to get their questions answered.

Having read through the meanderings on this thread I cannot help but wonder if the whole thing is an unnecessary struggle for both sides of this poor babe's birth family. Why are people so against considering adoption these days? When you consider what prospective adoptive parents have to go through to prove they can provide a wonderful home for a child, anyone struggling in OP's position must surely wonder if the child's best interests would be served by letting him go to a family where she can be certain he is both desperately wanted and long-awaited.

I work in a Hospital and can assure you that the childs records would be flagged due to the CP issues. The hospital can give out information to a parent phoning as long as they can verify the childs details ,in addition to this the Hospital cannot deny a parent with Parental control access,even on the say so of the other parent (although it would obviously be made clear to them that any body being aggressive would be removed pronto)

The OP's son was allegedly told he wasn't to visit as it was the mother who had "care and control" considering The fact that C&C hasn't been in existence since !989 I find the OP's account difficult to believe.

It still doesn't explain that they still would have needed someone with PR responsibility to consent to treatment.

nottslass_2

Frosti wrote: »

Worst case scenario; baby dies. Uncommon but it happens. As the child was showing an adverse reaction, the doctors would have wanted to keep an eye on him in case his symptoms worsened - he might have required respiratory aid during the night.
If he'd gone home, help would not have arrived in time.

OP - make sure whoever is responsible gets advice from the paediatrician before babe has any more inoculations. They can be given later, individually, or possibly not at all if there is a family history of severe reactions (ie. another babe in the family died after the jabs).

Loopy - have you got any children?

I think loopy was being sarcastic - If you are familiar with the entire thread you'll understand why.

Loopy_Girl

Frosti wrote: »

Loopy - have you got any children?

Yes I have - any reason why you are asking?

Loopy_Girl

Frosti wrote: »

baby was accompanied by his other grandmother and was ok -

Err no they didn't. They said the the Dad was not to go up as per the Mum's instructions and that they couldn't say how the baby was due to the DPA.

So no one knew how he was and what was wrong.

nottslass_2

Loopy_Girl wrote: »

Err no they didn't. They said the the Dad was not to go up as per the Mum's instructions and that they couldn't say how the baby was due to the DPA.

So no one knew how he was and what was wrong.

Thinking about it this get more unbelievable - I'd doubt the nurse would have cited the DPA anyway,the term used is "patient confidentiality"

Anyway The hospital can give out information to a parent as long as they can satisfy the Hospital of their identity.