my son wants to get custody for his son

nottslass_2

gizmo111 wrote: »

There is no such thing as an automatic care order - an application has to be made to a court and a judge will decide if the parties cannot agree. Most of SS records are electronic don't see many of us walking around with great big case files anymore!

Sorry meant emergency "care order"

tweetie_pie_3

Loopy_Girl wrote: »

That's Daddy's job surely? How is he going to learn to settle a baby if you do it? Why are you phoning Mum - it's nothing to do with you surely if Dad is trying to be the main carer?

Edit - have just read about baby being in hospital and yet again it's all 'I'm going to phone' etc...WHY is your SON not phoning round and more importantly, why didn't he get his !!!! up there as soon as he heard his Son was ill? Seriouly, this is a man who is meant to want custody of his kid yet he can't even be arsed to pick a phone up and see how his Son is, let alone jump in a taxi and get up there.

My son wasnt here at the time because we wasnt expecting to have him and SW has said it is my son with me being the main carer while son is at college
As for not getting his !!!! up there he wanted to go up there but after ringing hospital was advised by nurses not to because of the mum having care and control and as she had stopped access she had the say
SW gave my son a letter to show solicitors and according to his solicitor its the green light to tell my son to go for residency with theirs and our support

tweetie_pie_3

one_hot_minute wrote: »

But this is all perfectly plausible and things that can happen to a newborn. Surely the SW would only need to know if neglect or mistreatment led to hospitalisation?

They need to know the where abouts of baby 24/7

tweetie_pie_3

nottslass wrote: »

Actually if social services did this they'd be in breech of the DPA ( I have a working knowledge of it) Sorry But there is absolutely no way that SS would give such confidential information to your son

My son has details from every proffessional involved in baby he also have all of babies mums past gbh on minors drugs etc
As for the babies other grandmother it says they have been known to sw for nearly 30 years but it was babys mum that told us what her mum had done to her but her mum has a different story family centre said all i can say is that babies mum is not lying but everything involving baby and his mum son has got

Loopy_Girl

tweetie_pie wrote: »

My son wasnt here at the time because we wasnt expecting to have him and SW has said it is my son with me being the main carer while son is at college
As for not getting his !!!! up there he wanted to go up there but after ringing hospital was advised by nurses not to because of the mum having care and control and as she had stopped access she had the say
SW gave my son a letter to show solicitors and according to his solicitor its the green light to tell my son to go for residency with theirs and our support

But the Mum wasn't there? Surely the baby deserves to have one of his parent's there and as your Son has full PRR, then there was no reason for him not to be there.

Sorry but you slate baby's Mum and he doesn't do much better....any parent will tell you that nothing and no one will keep you from your child particularly when it's a tiny newborn in hospital.

tweetie_pie_3

esmy wrote: »

He'd be entiltled to have copies of just about everything that Social Services hold regarding his child - core assessments, reports for and minutes of Child Protection meetings in this case.

he has got core assessments
child protection reports
sw reports
midwife reports
details of mums past
details of aher drugs and gbh charge on minors
details of her injuries( no proof of any) since babies been born
details of mums lack of working with sw
details of her violence
details of chrology(sp) of events from last year
detail of grandmothers house and goings on in house and mums flat
there are probably a lot more details i havnt said but i havnt got them with me right now to look through

Loopy_Girl

What on earth was your son doing hanging around and sleeping with someone like that? And as for these parties - how do you think that she met your Son?

You make out that she is this that and the other but he is no Snow White either. Perhaps if there weren't young men prepared to sleep with her then she wouldn't have such a chaotic lifestyle.

tweetie_pie_3

pinknfluffy0 wrote: »

How about rather than fighting the mother for the baby, why dont you try and help. In the long run it will be better for the child.

Also I hope your son has learnt his lesson about getting girls pregnant.

Yes a lesson learnt
We have tried everything to help her and even the solicitor has said they have tried and have issued her a letter that states that are worried about him and if she dont attend with her solicitor baby will be taken into care, solicitor said thats why sw gave my son a copy of the letter cos they r giving him the green light to go ahead and that is y sw came round here wednesday to get things in action in case mum doesnt do as they say as she hasnt so far

Loopy_Girl

I thought it was your first appointment today woth Sols as that was the first one available? How could they have issued a letter already?

blue_monkey_2

Loopy_Girl wrote: »

What on earth was your son doing hanging around and sleeping with someone like that? And as for these parties - how do you think that she met your Son?

You make out that she is this that and the other but he is no Snow White either. Perhaps if there weren't young men prepared to sleep with her then she wouldn't have such a chaotic lifestyle.

Now has the chance to change his life around though - most of us do stupid things when we are younger and are easily led by others. I am sure he got a bit out of having a 26 year old girlfriend - he has however paid the price dearly. He now has a young baby to care for and has to grow up fast. Something I am sure he is doing with the help of his family. He does want to the do the decent thing so this should be congratulated as he could say 'I am having nothing to do with it'.

Good luck OP, I hope that everyone goes well for you, it sounds like SW want the baby to come and live with you all.