I'm going to lose this one aren't I?

RonWooney

unhappy_ebayer wrote: »

i will go see him and as i said it aint no threat i want whats mine

Cheapest option would have been for you to return it by post. Going to see him will cost you a lot more in travel expenses.

Paypal do not refund return postage, we all have to accept that. You may come across a seller who does offer a refund on postage both ways but that's incredibly rare, all my years of using ebay I have never once come across a seller who also refunds return postage.

SusieWinwood

Regardless of who is right or wrong I couldn't show myself up for the sum of £2.70. I've been ripped off on E bay but for the amount in question it wasn't worth raising my blood pressure!

jennyjelly

Oh for flips sake just cut the flippin arms off if you don't want to return it.

How old are you both? Probably old enough to worry about something a bit more important than this I imagine. Just grow up.

Harry_Flashman

Well after all that, he's simply closed the case - no return or further comms. Go figure?

Harry_Flashman

Oh ............ and no personal visit from the big fella either

PasturesNew

To me, a vest is something Rab C Nasbitt wears, or Onslow in Keeping up Appearances. It is an undergarment rarely exposed.

A T shirt is an outer garment, sometimes worn as an undergarment. A vest-style T shirt has no sleeves.

PasturesNew

Jane_Blackford wrote: »

Am I the only person sitting here totally amazed that people are actually allowed to sell British Army kit on Ebay. Even if it is surplus kit, or kit left over at the end of service, surely the most honourable thing would be to return it to stores?

Didn't somebody get jailed for something similar recently...? Flogging kit on ebay, although he was part of some organised group of kit nickers.

George666

Jane_Blackford wrote: »

Am I the only person sitting here totally amazed that people are actually allowed to sell British Army kit on Ebay. Even if it is surplus kit, or kit left over at the end of service, surely the most honourable thing would be to return it to stores?

Hi the problem is 9 times out of 10 the kit you are issued is not up to the job.
Most soldiers buy their own stuff and after a while dont even bother opening the issued kit so it just mounts up also stores do not like taking kit back once it has been issued to you as the army like to have on record the fact that you have a full compliment of kit at all times and if you hand stuff back in while you are serving then the record would state that you are missing kit and after a while you would be ordered to go to stores and pick up the kit you are missing.
It has also been recorded as being your kit when you sign for it and they would have to sign it back in and they cannot re-issue things like vests as they are undergarments.
When you leave any kit you have been issued that can be re-issued you have to hand back in otherwise you are billed for it but you still end up with piles of stuff that cannot be re-issued or you have bought yourself.
The kit that is really needed is not normally issued and that is the problem and it is this kit that soldiers are crying out for and normally end up buying themselves.
Also there are better alternatives to the kit that you are issued with like for example webbing or belt kit as some call it I had my own set that I bought a chest rig that was far better than the issued stuff.
I hated the PT vests as I always found the stitching would come away under the arm pits and always at the wrong time normally while doing PT and then you can get into trouble for wearing a ripped vest so I used to buy my own I also used to buy my own boots as the army ones really were in my opinion not up to the job.
Some of the stuff the OP was selling is not issued kit and it is military stuff he has had to buy and now just wants to get rid of as he no longer needs it.
I think a lot of people have jumped on the OP thinking he has done something wrong when in fact the stuff he has sold will have only made him back a small fraction of the money he will have spent on kit himself over his military career.
I have posted this reply becuse it is a sad fact but I do not know anyone who is ex-military or serving military who has not bought some of their own kit for one reason or another and this should not be the case but unfortunatly it is.

Mrs_justjohn

Scarlett.1974 wrote: »

Quite!

This whole situation is ridiculous, on both sides.

Seller - just give him his full refund for goodness sake so you can both move on!

I agree that this whole situation is out of hand and quite ridiculous. However I would like to add my two penneth...

Whilst I probably would have refunded at the very beginning of this...on the basis it seemed to just be a misunderstanding and it was a low value item..good customer service...etc...

I certainly would not refund now...not after the buyer tried to bully a refund out of me...threatened me...told me his chest size and height to try and put the frighteners on with suggested personal calls...etc. I would stand my ground and if he started a paypal dispute I would abide by the outcome as I would feel like 'the winner' either way. Either I would win the dispute or even if I lost it the buyer would have to return it at his own cost, which I know he doesn't want to do.

Giving in at this stage is like giving sweets to a naughty screaming child .....what message does this give? To me it tells the buyer he can bully a refund out of future sellers.

Scarlett.1974

Mrs_justjohn wrote: »

I agree that this whole situation is out of hand and quite ridiculous. However I would like to add my two penneth...

Whilst I probably would have refunded at the very beginning of this...on the basis it seemed to just be a misunderstanding and it was a low value item..good customer service...etc...

I certainly would not refund now...not after the buyer tried to bully a refund out of me...threatened me...told me his chest size and height to try and put the frighteners on with suggested personal calls...etc. I would stand my ground and if he started a paypal dispute I would abide by the outcome as I would feel like 'the winner' either way. Either I would win the dispute or even if I lost it the buyer would have to return it at his own cost, which I know he doesn't want to do.

Giving in at this stage is like giving sweets to a naughty screaming child .....what message does this give? To me it tells the buyer he can bully a refund out of future sellers.

Yes, I do see your point, but I think the buyer has only gone like this because of the seller proving so awkward regarding the refund in the first place.