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HTC Desire Froyo Upgrade rollout starts today

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  • bubblesmoney
    bubblesmoney Posts: 2,156 Forumite
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    djheath wrote: »
    You have to remember that it's the app developers who have to program their apps to be able to be moved to the SD card. It's not HTC or Froyos fault. In time they will change their apps as more and more people get Froyo.
    it is googles fault for the way they designed this in froyo. if some part time software writers on xda can write better software for the apps to sd which allows users to control the installation, then it is googles fault for making this crap apps2sd and leaving the app developer in charge of where it gets installed on someone elses phone.
    bubblesmoney :hello:
  • bubblesmoney
    bubblesmoney Posts: 2,156 Forumite
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    djheath wrote: »
    I have found this.

    I keep finding apps restarting all the time even though they have been killed.

    Also if I am in the browser. Kill it, then go back in, it is still on the last page I was on, and I can go back through about 8 pages of history even if I have cleared the history cache. I restart was the only way to properly clear it.
    This didn't happen with eclair.
    android system restarts any processes that other apps need to work. that is why you shouldnt be using task killers and shutting down apps willy nilly as they might be used by some other processes that you might think is not needed by may be needed by some programs to work properly. google has said a while ago that it does not recommend task killers. if you use it and suffer problems then you have only yourself to blame. android is different from windows about the way it does things.
    bubblesmoney :hello:
  • BillScarab
    BillScarab Posts: 6,027 Forumite
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by djheath viewpost.gif
    You have to remember that it's the app developers who have to program their apps to be able to be moved to the SD card. It's not HTC or Froyos fault. In time they will change their apps as more and more people get Froyo.

    it is googles fault for the way they designed this in froyo. if some part time software writers on xda can write better software for the apps to sd which allows users to control the installation, then it is googles fault for making this crap apps2sd and leaving the app developer in charge of where it gets installed on someone elses phone.

    You can install most apps to the card if you follow this guide. It doesn't involve rooting either.

    http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742379
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  • 330d
    330d Posts: 629 Forumite
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    djheath wrote: »
    I have found this.

    I keep finding apps restarting all the time even though they have been killed.

    Also if I am in the browser. Kill it, then go back in, it is still on the last page I was on, and I can go back through about 8 pages of history even if I have cleared the history cache. I restart was the only way to properly clear it.
    This didn't happen with eclair.

    Im dissapointed with this feature. Can others confirm that they also have this issue?
  • AdamBrunt
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    Fifer wrote: »
    Search for "Sky+" in the marketplace. The official app is published by Sky and the icon is the Sky logo with a small white 'R' in a red circle in one corner.

    Thanks.

    will test it out later.
  • bubblesmoney
    bubblesmoney Posts: 2,156 Forumite
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    BillScarab wrote: »
    You can install most apps to the card if you follow this guide. It doesn't involve rooting either.

    http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742379
    thanks.. you are a life saver, may you win the lotto on wednesday night!!!! :j

    on second thoughts:p, i dont mind winning the lotto on wednesday night too and sending you a nice lumpsum present. :rotfl:
    bubblesmoney :hello:
  • bubblesmoney
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    imr4n wrote: »
    Im dissapointed with this feature. Can others confirm that they also have this issue?
    why do you use a task killer, just use the settings menu under apps or processes to kill any feature if you desperately want to kill it. it does the same job fine and doesnt need any task killers!
    bubblesmoney :hello:
  • LeeSouthEast
    LeeSouthEast Posts: 3,822 Forumite
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    Anyone else noticed an email sync issue with second accounts? Worked fine under 2.1.

    Basically my personal google mail account is the 'primary', due to the earlier issue with Google Talk authentication failing with Google Apps accounts. The primary syncs fine, and email sent to it arrives a few seconds later.

    I've got the Apps account as a secondary, and it refuses to sync. If I hit 'refresh' in the Google Mail app, emails come through, but they won't on their own. Well, they have twice and for seemingly no reason, but generally will not. Anyone else experiencing this??

    HTC Technical Support were unaware. A brief Google search suggests issues with the Froyo-Sense ROMs and similar experiences... they're going to ring me back hopefully.
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  • To jump back a few steps to the OTA updating process, my understanding was that if a handset had software version 1.15.405.4, then it was sim-free, unlocked etc. and would receive the HTC stock Froyo upgrade OTA without having to wait on the carrier to push it.

    I am on Virgin Mobile and my handset is version 1.15.405.4 at the moment (the only virgin branding is a splash screen after the htc splash when booting the phone). However there seems to be no update available for me when I manually check for it.

    I also tried doing this over wi-fi only, with the virgin sim card taken out, but that didn't work either. Will the OTA upgrade be rolled out carrier-by-carrier, even for unlocked phones? My understanding of the OTA process is a bit shaky - does the phone look for this on HTC servers (using either the 3g or wifi connection) or does it get pushed to/from the carrier's servers?

    Froyo sounds awesome. The biggest feature I'm looking forward to is the wifi hotspot so that I can use my phone to feed my laptop and ipod when I'm out and about.
  • 330d
    330d Posts: 629 Forumite
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    why do you use a task killer, just use the settings menu under apps or processes to kill any feature if you desperately want to kill it. it does the same job fine and doesnt need any task killers!

    Task killers are alot easier by using a widget.
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