What happened to getting married before having children?

Mely

Marriage = The grinding tedium of enforced companionship.:rotfl:
According to the lady vicar off 'The League of Gentlemen'.
Of course i dont agree with her though...but that quote always makes me laugh:D

Mely

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Not necessarily. The world is full of men who never (or rarely) see their children. For a man, fathering a child is no commitment whatsoever, whatever some women manage to persuade themselves.

Fang wrote: »

Reality proves you wrong.

Fang...im sure there are many,many women out there who would beg to differ with you:(

Fang_3

Mely wrote: »

Fang...im sure there are many,many women out there who would beg to differ with you:(

I'm sure there are. The majority would not. Facts show that.;)

maggied_2

Mely wrote: »

Marriage = The grinding tedium of enforced companionship.:rotfl:
According to the lady vicar off 'The League of Gentlemen'.
Of course i dont agree with her though...but that quote always makes me laugh:D

I love that too - actually I love pretty much every line from League of Gentlemen!

Mely wrote: »

Fang...im sure there are many,many women out there who would beg to differ with you:(

Ermmm....yup!! Seriously you've never heard anyone lament "I really thought the baby would bring us closer together but he doesn't want to know / doesn't see the kids / doesn't pay for their upkeep"..blah blah blah!!

I've always said I would love to show what life is like to teenagers that think having kids will be a life enhancer - even if the couple splits up.....I know some people make it work but sooo many don't - or they do until life throws something more complicated up.

I swear if I could playback a tape of when my OH's X is carrying on and say "you could have this for at least the next 18 years" I reckon their b*lls would disappear so up inside them they may never reappear!

Again marriage isn't the magic salve to all our problems - but making a commitment (not necessarily a wedding) BEFORE you have children gives you all (especially the children) a better chance.

maggied_2

Fang wrote: »

I'm sure there are. The majority would not. Facts show that.;)

Please link to these facts - I would love to be proven wrong on this.

Fang_3

maggied wrote: »

Please link to these facts - I would love to be proven wrong on this.

In this country alone single mothers are in the minority.

Here's an article quoting said facts, which show that single parent families make up a quarter of families in the UK. The majority of those children will not have been abandoned. Point proven.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/the-big-question-how-many-single-parents-are-there-and-should-they-be-forced-to-work-434358.html

maggied_2

Fang wrote: »

In this country alone single mothers are in the minority.

Here's an article quoting said facts, which show that single parent families make up a quarter of families in the UK. The majority of those children will not have been abandoned. Point proven.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/the-big-question-how-many-single-parents-are-there-and-should-they-be-forced-to-work-434358.html

Really? What this article (from 2007 by the way) shows is that approx 1 in 4 familes is a lone parent family and that a high proportion (43.5%) are unemployed and relying on benefits. There is no 'proof' here that those familes are supported by the absent parent.

Must try harder MrF;)

Oldernotwiser

Fang wrote: »

To the detriment of their happiness. Shackled together, united in misery. It's hardly a recipe for a positive view of marriage.

How could anybody be happy if they had gone against their moral view, much less their faith?

Oldernotwiser

INT1 wrote: »

Marriages are so expensive these days .

Marriages are no more expensive than they ever were. Weddings however are ridiculously expensive because too many people think that they deserve all the trimmings that used to be the prerogative of the rich.

Why do people not understand the difference between a marriage and a wedding?

Oldernotwiser

Fang wrote: »

In this country alone single mothers are in the minority.

Here's an article quoting said facts, which show that single parent families make up a quarter of families in the UK. The majority of those children will not have been abandoned. Point proven.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/the-big-question-how-many-single-parents-are-there-and-should-they-be-forced-to-work-434358.html

So, by your thinking, the government never needed to set up a whole department (CSA) to get money out of absent fathers? Perhaps you should have told them this years ago!:rotfl: