What happened to getting married before having children?

Mely

lauren_1 wrote: »

count my fingers.

Dear me Lauren...theres no need to be rude:rotfl: Try and keep some dignity:)

POPPYOSCAR

Please don't let this thread degenerate into an argument.

Mely

Spender wrote: »

I just find it incredible how someone views having children as of lesser importance than getting engaged.

So do i its unbelieveable! What a warped country we live in the way some people think!:eek:

POPPYOSCAR

Spender wrote: »

It makes me sad when I see broken marriages and kids that dont see their fathers. Years ago people used to get married and have kids and they would stay together through thick and thin, but I guess its the selfish me me me society we live in now. Part of the blame must lie with the government though for encouraging permissiveness.

I don't see it quite like that. My parents were married for 50 years and by the end they did not like each other much. I would have preferred that they split up and lived happier lives apart.Why have a miserable life just because in the eyes of some people it is the right thing to do.

Mely

Spender wrote: »

It makes me sad when I see broken marriages and kids that dont see their fathers. Years ago people used to get married and have kids and they would stay together through thick and thin, but I guess its the selfish me me me society we live in now. Part of the blame must lie with the government though for encouraging permissiveness.

Yes and i suppose they have as many kids as possible for the benefit money...doesnt matter about how many 'baby daddys' they have as long as they get the money:eek:

lauren_1

Spender wrote: »

I just find it incredible how someone views having children as of lesser importance than getting engaged.

And choosing a life over engagement is a bit more important to me that saying yes to some cheating scumbag.

thatgirlsam

i beleive that is perfectly natural for us to have more than one partner in life.. in fact im not even sure that humans are naturally monogamous

we can force ourselves to be, to conform to what society expects of us.. but naturally we are not designed to be this way

so long as children are brought up well with loving parents it really doesn't matter if they are married or not

POPPYOSCAR

Spender wrote: »

Sometimes after people have been married for that length of time it just makes sense to stay together because neither your father or mother would have wanted to give up their home I guess and making a new start at their age would have been a worse gamble I would suspect.

Yes but they didn't get on for years. I often said to my dad why don't you divorce her? And he would say because she is the woman I married.I find this tragic as he was very unhappy and would have had a great life without her.

Fang_3

Spender wrote: »

I know you might disagree but it sounded like he still loves/loved her for all the fact that they never got on.

You can tell that from one sentence? Wow.

POPPYOSCAR

Spender wrote: »

I know you might disagree but it sounded like he still loves/loved her for all the fact that they never got on.

You could be right. I think he did care for her in a way but I think is was more a generation thing where you just did not get divorced(they were catholic as well)