Advice needed please

POPPYOSCAR

If I were not living with someone I would say I was single, children or no children,

Morgan_Ree

Deepmistrust wrote: »

1. She was seperated and "single" for two years.

So previous to that (as she did state they had been seperated for 2 years so were a couple before) they were a couple so claiming as a couple?

Of course not!
Hence the reason she is asking how long it takes to process a claim for change of circumstances!
If she had done it before she would already know how long it takes.

Deepmistrust wrote: »

2. Now she isn't (back with ex) she wants them to move in together and commit, as a "couple".
3. She has made no mention of how she presented herself prior to any seperation. .

As above

Deepmistrust wrote: »

Facts, deary, facts.

Indeed

POPPYOSCAR

[QUOTE=Morgan_Ree;34115823]I swear to god some of you need to spend a little less time licking windows.

What goes around comes around???
Are you mad??




Is she a lone parents?
You know a parent bringing her children up ALONE?




Lets say you were the OP and I was a friend just casually asking if you were single :cool:
You would obviously say no right?

Now lets say I work for Tax credits.
OP are you single?
Yes I am......

Can you really not see the problem here??[/QUOTE]






Why do you feel the need to be insulting?

Deepmistrust

Morgan_Ree wrote: »

So previous to that (as she did state they had been seperated for 2 years so were a couple before) they were a couple so claiming as a couple?

SO? Sorry, I'm not up-to-date with benefits terms?
Has she stated how she presented herself before that, or the relevant agencies decision on it? No.


Of course not!
Hence the reason she is asking how long it takes to process a claim for change of circumstances!
If she had done it before she would already know how long it takes.

People on here say all the time it is done instantly when changing from "couple" to "single" it's the other way around that takes time.
Besides, who knows perhaps then as he was working he didnt need benefits. Housing benefit etc is judged on your household income, if they have never been one household and he has never lived there, why would they say he has to pay her rent? LMAO.


As above



Indeed

Honestly lmao. Get real.:rotfl:

AnxiousMum

They have three children together, eldest aged 5, youngest aged 2. She says they have 'never lived together', meaning that they would likely never have claimed as a couple. The OP states that when the dad is working again, they won't get any benefits, so he was obviously on a very good income, with one child, while she was on single parent benefits with two of the children. He is now off sick, claiming HB, ct, and whatever sickness benefits - making a huge cut in his income. He obviously has no savings, as she has said if they are without the tax credits from their new joint claim, they stand to lose their house. So, going from a good salary (must be over £60K if it means that they will get NO benefits as she says, when he starts working again), to benefits is a huge difference.
The way she worded her post, I get the full impression that they're both struggling along on benefits, and yes, of course it would be cheaper for them to be living together and claiming benefits as a famiy.

However, they have three children, have NEVER lived together, but spend weekends together. To be eligible as a single parent, you need to show that the boyfriend doesn't contribute to your household in any way financially, that you don't do things 'as a family', and don't generally appear to be a family in the eyes of others. It's not about just having children together, living permanently under one roof etc. For all intents and purposes, the way she describes the 'family', they are a couple, have been a couple all along, just choosing to maintain two residences.

POPPYOSCAR

Have I missed something here?(Its late and Im tired so I could well have done) But we dont know for how long he hasnt been working so we have no idea what benefits they did/did not claim in the past only what they are claiming at the moment.

Deepmistrust

AnxiousMum wrote: »

They have three children together, eldest aged 5, youngest aged 2. She says they have 'never lived together', meaning that they would likely never have claimed as a couple. ASSUMPTIONS ASSUMPTIONS ASSUMPTIONS. Nor do you know how she was ADVISED to claim by the relevant agencies. The OP states that when the dad is working again, they won't get any benefits, so he was obviously on a very good income, with one child, while she was on single parent benefits with two of the children. He is now off sick, claiming HB, ct, and whatever sickness benefits - making a huge cut in his income. He obviously has no savings, as she has said if they are without the tax credits from their new joint claim, they stand to lose their house. So, going from a good salary (must be over £60K if it means that they will get NO benefits as she says, when he starts working again), to benefits is a huge difference.
The way she worded her post, I get the full impression that they're both struggling along on benefits, and yes, of course it would be cheaper for them to be living together and claiming benefits as a famiy.

However, they have three children, have NEVER lived together, but spend weekends together. To be eligible as a single parent, you need to show that the boyfriend doesn't contribute to your household in any way financially, that you don't do things 'as a family', and don't generally appear to be a family in the eyes of others. It's not about just having children together, living permanently under one roof etc. For all intents and purposes, the way she describes the 'family', they are a couple, have been a couple all along, just choosing to maintain two residences.

Again, you ignore that she has been "single" for two years.
You also ignore that you have no idea - only assumptions - on how she presented herself prior.
You also ignore that she may not have been on ANY benefits at all.
You also ignore that you don't know what decision the relevant agencies reached about her status in the first instance.


I've already pointed out the three FACTS (Assuming her to be truthful) that IS known. None of them suggest anything illegal, which takes me back full circle to my earlier point about a premature desire on these boards to "virtually investigate and sentence" any poster who is in receipt of any benefit.

Deepmistrust

poppyoscar wrote: »

have i missed something here?(its late and im tired so i could well have done) but we dont know for how long he hasnt been working so we have no idea what benefits they did/did not claim in the past only what they are claiming at the moment.

precisely!

POPPYOSCAR

AnxiousMum wrote: »

They have three children together, eldest aged 5, youngest aged 2. She says they have 'never lived together', meaning that they would likely never have claimed as a couple. The OP states that when the dad is working again, they won't get any benefits, so he was obviously on a very good income, with one child, while she was on single parent benefits with two of the children. He is now off sick, claiming HB, ct, and whatever sickness benefits - making a huge cut in his income. He obviously has no savings, as she has said if they are without the tax credits from their new joint claim, they stand to lose their house. So, going from a good salary (must be over £60K if it means that they will get NO benefits as she says, when he starts working again), to benefits is a huge difference.
The way she worded her post, I get the full impression that they're both struggling along on benefits, and yes, of course it would be cheaper for them to be living together and claiming benefits as a famiy.

However, they have three children, have NEVER lived together, but spend weekends together. To be eligible as a single parent, you need to show that the boyfriend doesn't contribute to your household in any way financially, that you don't do things 'as a family', and don't generally appear to be a family in the eyes of others. It's not about just having children together, living permanently under one roof etc. For all intents and purposes, the way she describes the 'family', they are a couple, have been a couple all along, just choosing to maintain two residences.

You are making assumptions, you dont know any of this to be fact.She is describing her family as it is now.

AnxiousMum

Okay, she has also said he has to give one month's notice to the council to give up his council flat. They've decided they are now a couple, whether living apart or under the same roof, she refers to him as her 'partner'. Wonder if she's changed her status with the various agencies yet? Doubt it - she's on here trying to ensure that she times it so that she doesn't go without in the meantime, hence her discussions on having to feed the kids on bread and water for however long.
Wonder how long it'll take for her to report the latest 'change in circumstances'.