Why do they have to shout all the time?!

Blackpool_Saver

patchwork_cat wrote: »

Where abouts in St Annes? I must be honest when I grew up their it was VERY quiet on Clifton Drive nth.

Cypress Point, Clifton Dve. eh? mmmm very nice

Blackpool_Saver

Savvy_Sue wrote: »

I'm not sure if that's the swear filter cutting in, and if so what it's hiding, but if he was wandering round naked then he probably WAS a naturist.

Which, in the privacy of his own garden, shouldn't be a problem.

It was a series of exclamation marks actually !!

The problem was that he used to wander around and not stick to his own garden, also one evening he came over to discuss some neighbourhood watch issues and asked if he took take his clothes off in my living room !!!
At this stage we all trooped off to Lytham police station to report him...........

SugarSpun

B00 wrote: »

But unless she actually speaks to them about their "unreasonable" behaviour (I'm STILL not getting what's THAT bad about children playing and BBQ's) They might not think their actions are causing their neighbours any upset.

I'm am genuinely astonished that the majority of you are assuming they're loudmouthed chavvy yobs, when the OP hasn't even spoken to them to validate this.

The neighbours could very well turn out to be nice folk, a bit rough and ready perhaps, but we can't all be perfect can we?

This is what I'm wondering too, TBH - along with wondering what our neighbours think of us.

We're both at home a lot during the day.
We both have tattoos.
We have a child who can make a lot of noise.
My husband sometimes smells of alcohol and normally looks a bit sick.

Now here's the thing - we both work in skilled professions that allow for a lot of home-office and we prefer to be at home with the wee one (the husband is a programmer and I'm a mental health researcher). My husband looks and smells ill because he is; he has a problem with his pancreas that causes the weird alcohol smell (also common on the breath of diabetics). The baby's a baby, and sometimes they make noise. And as for tattoos... they're hardly the uniform of chavs, although they might have been twenty years ago. If you were to glare at us from over the fence, you might make the assumption that we're a benefit-scrounging pair of workshy chavs, but between us we have almost two decades of university education and we're not short of money or manners. And FWIW, if someone came to our door and asked us to try and keep the noise down we'd bend over backwards to do it.

artybear

SugarSpun wrote: »

This is what I'm wondering too, TBH - along with wondering what our neighbours think of us.

We're both at home a lot during the day.
We both have tattoos.
We have a child who can make a lot of noise.
My husband sometimes smells of alcohol and normally looks a bit sick.

Now here's the thing - we both work in skilled professions that allow for a lot of home-office and we prefer to be at home with the wee one (the husband is a programmer and I'm a mental health researcher). My husband looks and smells ill because he is; he has a problem with his pancreas that causes the weird alcohol smell (also common on the breath of diabetics). The baby's a baby, and sometimes they make noise. And as for tattoos... they're hardly the uniform of chavs, although they might have been twenty years ago. If you were to glare at us from over the fence, you might make the assumption that we're a benefit-scrounging pair of workshy chavs, but between us we have almost two decades of university education and we're not short of money or manners. And FWIW, if someone came to our door and asked us to try and keep the noise down we'd bend over backwards to do it.

I agree, I have read the whole of this thread and it seems to be OP that you had disregarded your neighbours as chavs before you even posted.

Yes, they may be, yes they could be verbally abusive to you but they could also turn around, apologise profusely and try to be quieter in future.

You do come across as a little bit snobby, in particular when you mention 'shop-bought burgers' and I think you have to put aside your reservations and at least attempt to ask them to inform you of bbq's.

I do understand what it is like to live alone, my mum was a single parent and we lived on a not great estate with some chavvy people, however we always gave them the benefit of the doubt and ASKED them to change their behaviour before taking any other actions.

Maybe they will pleasantly surprise you??

xxx

chris1973

but if he was wandering round naked then he probably WAS a naturist.

Which, in the privacy of his own garden, shouldn't be a problem.

Unless of course, the next door neighbours had kids who had a large trampoline and who used it to peer over a reasonably high fence into his garden. Suddenly the poor bloke is at risk of being arrested for indecent exposure, through no fault of his own and for nothing more than his neighbours not respecting his privacy and invading it.

In practice your point holds water, in society however, we all know it wouldn't

Savvy_Sue

Actually there have been a couple of court cases involving naturists where the judge has said TALK TO EACH OTHER if you have a problem rather than going to law about it: I admit the naturist described initially is a bit OTT, but (hopefully) if you were reported for indecent exposure because your neighbour's children were peering over the fence from a trampoline the same common sense approach would apply - either those with the trampoline move it, or get a bigger fence, or ignore it. That would be my response if I got any complaints - not that I wander round my garden naked, you understand ... but I could! And you'd have to be trying really hard to see me.

coolcait

mrsr wrote: »

I have also tried having a ploite word with my nieghbours and there NOT chavvy.There reply was yes there kids are noisy but there only playing :eek:.There is now bad feeling between us and things have got worse they now have a paddling pool ,OMG at the moment theres two in the pool screaming at the top of there voices and three on the trampoline .I expect this will go on all day ,it's boiling hot and i have had to shut all windows and doors .I dont like sitting in the garden but I do like having the conservatory doors into the garden open ,I've got no chance .The Op should be able to have some piece and i can understand how she feels.

I'm really sorry to hear about your situation, and I'm sorry to use your post to illustrate an issue which worries me at times on these boards. If you feel I've overstepped the mark, please let me know, and I'll remove this post.

I've been involved in a couple of discussions on MSE where posters have talked about their neighbour(s) complaining about the noise made by the poster's children.

I have noticed that some other posters then 'advise' inviting (lots of) other children to come round and play and make noise.

I don't agree with this 'advice', and (as you'll have noticed ) find it hard to even consider it as advice!

When challenged, I have seen it defended as an attempt to cheer up the original poster on the thread, and not intended to be taken seriously.

All that said, when I read your post I did wonder if your neighbour had been posting on MSE, had been 'advised' to invite other kids round to make even more noise, and had taken it seriously!

The bottom line is that quieter people are entitled to have some peace and quiet.

OK, children playing can be noisy. They can also be brought indoors at times, to be noisy where only their parents can hear them. This allows others to have peace and quiet.

A quiet person can exercise their right to be quiet without anyone else noticing. That doesn't mean that their right to quiet should be ignored.

coolcait

Mojisola wrote: »

Unfortunately this isn't true. Other posters have said they have had tyres slashed and windows broken after just speaking to neighbours.

That said, it doesn't necessarily mean that this will happen to the OP.

Just because people are noisy/potentially inconsiderate/don't know that their neighbours find them noisy, because their neighbours have never said anything to them...

doesn't mean that they are going to slash tyres, break windows, or anything else.

It's a risk, perhaps. It's not a given.

coolcait

chris1973 wrote: »

Sometimes you get to know the little signs, without actually speaking to them, for example with my neighbours...

They never spoke to me, nodded or acknowledged me on the many times i've said good morning to them, other people who do speak to each other, have said similar.

In 3 years, She has never nodded, waved, flashed her headlights in thanks whenever I let her go first out of courtesy in her car when we meet on the narrow bit of the road - just blasts her way through and seems to expect it of everybody, like she's royalty.

...

Your post goes on to give more detail about your personal situation.

However, the bit I have quoted also describes my neighbour across the road.

I'm not going to go into detail on a public mesage board, because her personal situation would be recognisable, on the off-chance that other locals read this board.

Short version. She acted like this. She was driven by (justified, IMO) fear. Not because she was a chav. Not because she was anti-social. It was because she was terrified.

coolcait

What about a bit of reverse psychology, OP?

Pick your moment. Wait till the neighbours have their washing out on the line, and it's BBQ(ish) weather.

Then go and ring their doorbell, and tell them that you're planning to have a BBQ later on, and have noticed that they have washing out on the line. So you're just letting them know that you'll be lighting up at [whatever time] so that they can bring their washing in before then, if they want to.

I'm basically sympathetic to your dilemma. However, I haven't seen anything in your posts which explains why you are so reluctant to actually speak to these people. Yes, other posters have shared horror stories loosely based on similar circumstances. But that doesn't necessarily mean that your neighbours would do the same kind of thing.

As for cheap shop-bought burgers, this is MSE! Our family BBQ'd cheap shop-bought burgers yesterday. Going by the ingredients, they weren't that different to the burgers I'd have made from scratch. But they were vastly reduced because of the so-called 'sell by' date.

They were also accompanied by home-made potato salad, rice and couscous (is couscous chavvy? ). But no-one would have been able to smell that cooking.

On the burger point alone, I have no idea how you can judge your neighbours... [confused]