HGV's in lane 2. Grrrr...

Hammyman

harveybobbles wrote: »

Do you think it'd be a good idea to make HGV's only use lane one on the Motorways during say, 7am-7pm...?

I ask this as it can be quite irritating when you're ambling along in lane 3 @ 70/75 when a HGV pulls from lane one to lane two... The whole of lane two then shoves into lane three causing lane three to drop to about 60mph. This goes on for the next mile and a half while the lorry gets past and gets back into lane one...
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That's what happens when all car drivers try to make the same journey within the same 2hr period....

Hammyman

harveybobbles wrote: »

It's amazing how much congestion they cause when one pulls out to over take the other. Yes they're all professional drivers and without them we wouldnt have food in the shops.

But if they are proff drivers - then they should leave enough distance to the one in front. Therefore not needing to overtake...

If I can go up a hill at 56MPH, why should I have to stay behind a lorry that can only do 45?

At the end of the day, there are only 450,000 registered HGVs in the UK. There are 33,000,000 cars. It ain't the lorries clogging up the roads.

Hammyman

scotsman4th wrote: »

For such big hairy ar5ed guys (and gals!), can you not even take a bit of tounge in cheek posts?
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When you've had 20 years of abuse as a lorry driver for having the cheek to be on the same road as cars and being blamed for all the traffic problems in the UK, even though you only form 1.5% of all road vehicles, you stop seeing it as tongue in cheek.

Hammyman

vikingaero wrote: »

I agree with Bills sentiment. We talk of truckers being professional etc etc but trucking is now a mainstream job with hundreds of thousands of trucks on the road. With quantity comes the inevitable decline in standards and many truckers leaving it so late that they have to overtake to maintain momentum. They then force their way out into other lanes and cause other vehicles to brake hard for them.

BWAHAHA.

There are 100,000 FEWER trucks than there were in 1950. They leave it so late to overtake as to minimise the distance to try and not upset you whinging car drivers longer than needed.

Hammyman

trets77 wrote: »

BUT i think the next logical step is to keep the HGV's off the road in sociable hours ( AKA when the majority of people travel) . give them tax breaks and incentives to put them on the road in the middle night ( carrot) and then then hit them in the pocket if they insist on clogging the roads up during the day ( stick )

There speaks a poster who has NEVER EVER been down the A1, M1, M6, M25 or M62 between midnight to 5am. On a Monday morning at 4am in South Yorkshire, there's a long line of lorries heading north as far as the eye can see. Thousands of the things.

When I was a lorry driver, I either started at 4am or finished at 4am. By 8am in the morning, I'd already done 200 miles and was at my delivery.

They already DO work 24hrs a day. The big 6 supermarkets have deliveries 24hrs a day. The Regional Distribution Centers get deliveries 24hrs a day. Where are you going to get the staff to unload them at your local builders merchant? Are you going to pay the massive increases in prices to cover the additional staffing costs of the shop you buy your goods at?

As a resident, are you going to be happy with lorries trundling past your house at 2am in the morning? Not many people are which is why many industrial estates have delivery restrictions between 7pm-7am.

it could work IMO . as a railway man it is a obvious solution .

To a simpleton who has absolutely no idea of the supply chain, its an obvious solution.

Rail freight mostly travels out of the way of passenger trains , the daytime paths are charged at a premium. is it so hard to apply the same principles on the roads ?? our roads are a asset it's time we used them smarter !!!

Indeed. Maybe CAR DRIVERS should all stop trying to be on the road in the same two hours at each end of the day.

It is really really simple. Lorries are only there because they're carrying things which YOU buy. If you don't want lorries on the road, stop buying stuff. They're also running 24hrs because YOU expect the shelves in the shops to carry all the stock, all of the time.

KillerWatt

Hammyman wrote: »

Actually it has been proven that if car drivers used proper lane discipline, the effect would be the same as building 800 miles of new motorway.

I guess that all the MLM's have forgotten the sentence in the Highway Code that says you should keep left at all times unless overtaking.

vaio

KillerWatt wrote: »

I would say there is no such thing as being over cautious when you are at the helm of a lump of metal weighing anywhere from 1 ton upwards when it is stationary (and considerably more when it is moving).

I'd say that you can be over cautious and it’s bad news. It causes necessary delays and frustration to other drivers

missile

Originally Posted by KillerWatt lump of metal weighing anywhere from 1 ton upwards when it is stationary (and considerably more when it is moving).

.... weighs exactly the same stationary or moving

banger9365

do you really want 44tons running past your front door ,if we cannot go on the motorways ,or we have to sit in line on otorways behind each other ,we will only start going the old ways to places ,
now that will upset you and then you will sit behind us at 40 because thats the nation speed limit for a hgv on a single carrageway ,now that is fun

Madtyke

As a traffic planner for a haulage company I don't think it would work. HGV's will normally travel at 56mph which is approx 60mph on a car speedo. However, this is dependent on the weight of their load. Alorry is fully loaded could be pulling 40 tonnes but if empty only 17 tonnes. Some drivers are working to tight deadlines hence the overtaking whilst others can afford to amble along. It can be annoying when a lorry attempts to overtake especially when the driver hasn't read the road and planned ahead but then before picking on lorry drivers may I suggest the Middle lane Marys are sorted out first, this would allow those in a hurry to get where they need to be in plenty of time.