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Anyone heard of Shieldtex/Turner enterprises? and general advice on rendering needed.

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  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    ewcs wrote: »
    No you did not misread nothing,
    No I did not misread anything! Was it not obvious I was pulling your leg on this element?

    No?


    Oh!


    Sorry.

    your just proving which each statement how very little you know past your traditional render
    My traditional render? Oh dear you haven't worked out where I'm arguing from yet - never mind.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    ewcs wrote: »
    And on the 25% issue, usually a 3 bed semi in traditional sand & cement is around £4k with sand, cement, waterproofer, stainless steel beads, scaffold, skip, labour, paint, labour to paint +25% of that is £5k. Oh and before you harp on again! if the property needs render to be hacked off etc, your £4k could become £4.4k and + 25% of that is £5.5k
    Oh goody - some clarification arrives at long last - its been like pulling teeth. Thank you.
    , my my is that a figure i quoted earlier.
    Nope - sarcasm doesn't work.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    ewcs wrote: »
    oh and by the way, i don`t know if this may of passed your notice,
    Not at all.
    but plasterer charged £900 to complete just 18mtrs, that works out £50 a mtr,
    You conveniently forget that the scaffolding cost for a whole wall is the scaffolding cost for the whole wall and it looks to me from the images that only half the wall was done.
    a 3 bed semi is over a 100
    Do you know something? I dont accept that for one minute. When you take out all the windows and doors theres probably no more than 60m2 of material to be applied. Even if you were correct with 100 thats £40 -45 per sqm for the whole house and if its 60m2 then thats over £ 60 per sqm for the whole house. Didn't you mention £ 22/sqm previously? Oh yes so you did.

    Oh and by the way why are you factoring stripping back into the equation? I only ask because you said:
    ewcs wrote: »
    Why have your pebbledash stripped off when these newer systems are designed to be applied directly over any substrate(once prepared) and are superb concrete repair agents, could of saved you about £800 with no stripping back.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • ewcs
    ewcs Posts: 112 Forumite
    keystone wrote: »
    Not at all.

    You conveniently forget that the scaffolding cost for a whole wall is the scaffolding cost for the whole wall and it looks to me from the images that only half the wall was done.

    Do you know something? I dont accept that for one minute. When you take out all the windows and doors theres probably no more than 60m2 of material to be applied. Even if you were correct with 100 thats £40 -45 per sqm for the whole house and if its 60m2 then thats over £ 60 per sqm for the whole house. Didn't you mention £ 22/sqm previously? Oh yes so you did.

    Oh and by the way why are you factoring stripping back into the equation? I only ask because you said:



    Cheers
    Im done with trying to educate pork, your better off butting in giving advice about wooden floors, or scrap copper, or tile grout but stay away from renders, i only comment on what i trained to do, im a qualified time served plasterer and advise on such to my knowledge, you seem to be a Jack of all trades, (would that be a master of none maybe ?)
  • ewcs
    ewcs Posts: 112 Forumite
    ewcs wrote: »
    Im done with trying to educate pork, your better off butting in giving advice about wooden floors, or scrap copper, or tile grout but stay away from renders, i only comment on what i trained to do, im a qualified time served plasterer and advise on such to my knowledge, you seem to be a Jack of all trades, (would that be a master of none maybe ?)
    God i can`t stop laughing, 50 METERS OF WINDOWS in a 3 bed semi, that`s a greenhouse you wally, you can tell that by the tomatoes growing in there surely.
    I just showed your statement to some people in the office. I can`t post on here what they said, but boy you have made them laugh.
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    ewcs wrote: »
    Im done with trying to educate pork,........
    thats the second time you've resorted to silly, childish, offensive name calling on this thread to justify yourself.
    your better off butting in giving advice about wooden floors, or scrap copper, or tile grout but stay away from renders,
    Coming from someone who thinks and has advised on this very board, that you drill joists for pipes thats very very rich.
    i only comment on what i trained to do,
    Mmmm. You will have noted that all I am doing is questioning the efficay of these "wrap your house in clingfilm" products and commenting on your seemingly grossly inflated and verging on the scammy pricing methods. I have a built in dislike for those that rip people off and by continually dodging the questions you are making yourself a target.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    ewcs wrote: »
    God i can`t stop laughing, 50 METERS OF WINDOWS in a 3 bed semi, that`s a greenhouse you wally, you can tell that by the tomatoes growing in there surely.
    Ha Ha - thats not what I said. What I said was that I don't beleive that the average three bed semi requires 100m2 of rendering and asked if you've forgotten things like windows, doors, porches, tile hung areas conservatories, patio doors etc - want me to go on? Your response is to try and ridicule the question rather than answer it - nuff said.
    I just showed your statement to some people in the office. I can`t post on here what they said, but boy you have made them laugh.
    Office? Not surprised if they are all in on the scam that I'm detecting. You're just like Perky on the PPC threads - makes everyone there laugh too.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    Right then - heres a test for you. These "typical" houses all have 100 sq metres of walls to be rendered have they? The scam I'm smelling is to inflate the work requirement in order to justify the inflated cost. Do give us all a break.

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    BTW I had a quoting day today. Visited 5 semis of varying sizes and with the householders permission I measured the areas of render or renderable brickwork. Would you like me to post the results just so that people can see what a nonsense 100m2 is and just how expensive your stuff is on a meterage basis? I suspect not - but I will if you ask nicely.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    ewcs wrote: »
    ..........50 METERS OF WINDOWS..........
    PMSL. 100 square METERS:

    100m2.jpg

    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    ewcs wrote: »
    vodaphone HQ 230,000
    That would be the newish one in Newbury at RG14 2FN would it?

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
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